UK Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

I took notice because of the vivid discussion I had with Jeff in
Large Amphibious Assault Vessels
Thread one year ago (for FORBIN: started May 15, 2015 :) anyway:

Thermal Metal Coating Developed for HMS Queen Elizabeth

(Source: Institute of Mechanical Engineers; posted May 20, 2016)
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
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on May 23, 2016 at 1:09 PM
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Prince William in Griffin helicopter

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla.: The United Kingdom is following the U.S.
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(JMR-TD) project with “great interest” and might either get involved at some point or buy future aircraft the effort spawns, says a top British Defence Ministry rotorcraft engineer.

“It’s a perfectly feasible outcome,” Bryan Finlay, the senior engineer at the UK’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory, said Wednesday at the American Helicopter Society International’s annual forum. He was replying to a question I put to him.

Finlay said during the panel that the UK has decided it will replace its army’s and its navy’s medium-lift helicopters in the mid-2030s. The JMR-TD aims to prove technologies for a new more capable medium-lift vertical takeoff and landing aircraft to go into operation by 2034. Under the JMR-TD, Bell Helicopter’s new
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and Sikorsky and Boeing’s new
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are to fly next year to start validating new technologies and designs.

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Bell V-280 Valor Joint Multi-Role Demonstrator

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Sikorsky-Boeing SB-1 Defiant concept

“Right now we don’t know what the Joint Multirole program’s going to deliver in terms of a platform,” Finlay noted. “Therefore we would wait with great interest.”

But when asked if it was reasonable to expect the UK military to get “involved in some of the deliberations” as the JMR proceeds, Finlay replied: “Absolutely. I think at a military-to-military level that they already have.”



UK and U.S. science and technology engineers such as himself already have, Finlay added. “The S&T guys, we talk to each other all the time, and we’re interested in the geeky stuff, and that’s not a problem,” he said. “But the key to unlocking capabilities is really the military-to-military contact and their understanding. And then of course the politicians.”

Aw, probably makes too much sense.

Full disclosure: The American Helicopter Society International paid for Breaking Defense’s lodging during Forum 72.
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FORBIN

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Zephyr 8

A curious big bird unusual machine, only military VHALE, Very High Alttude Long Endurance UAV , two ordered in 02/2016 for Strat Recc, communications.

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wingspan of 25 meters
capable of flying for more than a month at an altitude of between 65,000 feet and 70,000 feet

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Feb 6, 2016
that's what you say but:

"The Type 45 uses a pioneering system called Integrated Electric Propulsion (IEP). There are many advantages associated with IEP, fuel efficiency, flexibility in locating the engines and a supposedly reduced maintenance and manning requirement. In basic terms, two WR-21 gas turbines (GTs) and two Wartsila 2MW diesel generators provide AC power for the motors that propel the ship as well as the power for the ships systems – weapons, sensors lighting etc. The WR-21 GTs were designed in an international partnership with Rolls Royce and Northrop Grumman Marine Systems. The turbines are of a sound design but have an intercooler-recuperator that recovers heat from the exhaust and recycles it into the engine, making it more fuel-efficient and reducing the ship’s thermal signature. Unfortunately the intercooler unit has a major design flaw and causes the GTs to fail occasionally. When this happens, the electrical load on the diesel generators can become too great and they ‘trip out’, leaving the ship with no source of power or propulsion."

"The funding for the “Type 45 machinery improvement package” was agreed in the November 2015 SDSR and at least the problem has finally been recognised and funds are in place. Each vessel will have to be dry-docked, large openings cut in the hull and two new diesel generator sets slid into place."

etc. etc.
Putting the Type 45 propulsion problems in perspective
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details emerging:
Royal Navy’s Type 45 destroyers cannot handle warm waters
The engines on Royal Navy’s mighty Type 45 destroyers break down when they sail in waters warmer than those of the Portsmouth naval base, members of Parliament were told Tuesday by BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, Northrop Grumman and General Electric executives.

MPs questioned the managers as to why the £1 billion ships which form the ‘backbone of the fleet’ kept breaking down. The response they received was that the construction specifications did not say that the ships would be conducting prolonged or repeated operations in the warm waters of the Middle East.

As it turns out, intercooler units on the gas turbines that power the ships underwent design changes which, subsequently, were not fully tested. The systems worked well in North Sea waters but failed to perform in warmer waters in the Gulf.

Once the turbines stop providing enough power to the engines, the ship’s generators experience a failure which leaves the ships drifting in the waters with no power at all.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed in January 2016 the the ships are to undergo extensive engine refits which will cost millions of pounds. Engine rooms will have to be accessed by cutting holes in the sides of the ships. Work on the reparations will be performed in stages so as to allow for some of the ships to remain available for operations.

The MoD did not specify exactly how much the reparations would cost.
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asif iqbal

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Another MoD black hole

They cut the 12 to 8 to 6

Now to keep the 6 they will have to spend the money of the 12! Here we go how much did those 8 Chinooks cost again ???

After all those years of experience and knowledge they mess up again it's not like RN has never been to Arabian Sea

Anyway Let's talk about the new mess the SSBN programme

SSBN is a primary weapon of war full stop

It acts as a deterrence because mutually assured destruction works with sane governments and sane country's

Now it's not going to work against a sucicide bomber or a terrorist but that's not the point

Deterrence is the corner stone of western military strategy because it worked and proved itself during the Cold War many country's maybe don't understand how deterrence works simply because they never been in that situation

So SSN doesn't work and SSK doesn't work only SSBN works and you need four units

1 on patrol
1 on work up
1 in dock
1 in refuel or maintenance

That is the magic number 4 not 3 not 5 but 4

SSBN brings a very heavy weight to the table and shapes foreign policy which shapes trade

If UK is stupid enough to cancel SSBN it's end of uk global presence
 

FORBIN

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Typhoon Tranche 3 armed for 2018 with Meteor, Brimstone and Storm Shadow

BAE Plans First Powered Flight Tests of Storm Shadow Missile on Typhoon

WARTON, England — BAE Systems expects to conduct the first powered flight tests of the Storm Shadow cruise missile on a Typhoon fighter as June 13 as part of key weapons capability enhancements for the jet-gain momentum, according to company officials.

Integration of the standoff missile is part of a Typhoon Phase 2 Enhancements (P2E) program, which also includes the addition of the Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile and other capability improvements to the jet.

Two live separations of the Storm Shadow have already been conducted, but the firing will be the first powered release of the missile from a Typhoon.

Fitted to the Tornado, the Storm Shadow has been widely used operationally by the Royal Air Force (RAF) but the strike jet is scheduled to go out of service in 2019.

Typhoon is already conducting operations over Syria and Iraq striking Islamic State group targets with the Raytheon Paveway IV precision-guided bomb.

The RAF is scheduled to undertake tests of the Storm Shadow in Warton, England, toward the end of this year with operational evaluation trials at RAF Coningsby due to get started in early 2017, according to Andy Flynn, BAE’s Eurofighter contract delivery director and the executive responsible for the Centurion program, which aims to transition capabilities from the Tornado to the Typhoon ahead of the former going out of service.

Other Storm Shadow operators — the weapon is also used by Italian and Saudi Arabian Tornadoes — will have access to the product for use on their own Typhoons along a similar timeline.
A further program, known as PE3, is working to add the Brimstone 2 missile to Typhoon’s growing list of weapons capabilities.

Typhoon is built by the Eurofighter consortium involving BAE, Leonardo-Finmeccanica, and Airbus Defence and Space. All the weapons are made by MBDA. The additional weapons are a critical part of the Centurion program.

Briefing reporters on the program at the home of BAE’s Military Air and Information business at Warton, Flynn said he was confident the updates were on course to allow Royal Air Force Typhoon crews to be ready to take over the Tornado role by the end of 2018.

Work on the Meteor introduction into service is also progressing as part of the P2E program.
The BAE executive said that four missiles have been flight tested and a further two firings are planned over ranges in Scotland closer to the end of 2016.

The final part of the weapons upgrade — the addition of the Brimestone 2 — to the Typhoon inventory is taking shape under the PE3 element of the enhancement plan

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