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Sad news Asif, was the aircraft departing or being recovered to the airfield, always possible that someone was flying a more aggressive departure???? or arrival. post details as they come available, this will be interesting?
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After the initial reports there wasn't really any more info so far. What was initially said was that the aircraft was on departure and experianced a (multi-)engine failure right after lift off. The captain declared an emergency and stated intentions to come back to the airport to land. The reports said that according to bystanding laymen eyewitnesses the plane made a rather sharp left turn. It then, somewhere on the way back to final, struck a powerline pole or radio mast and crashlanded in a field.
That is what I have so far and is probably more speculative then certain ...
 
asif iqbal

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Might be some good news for RN

Defence committee is suggesting as is the first former sea lord that UK surface ships numbers at 19 is unacceptable (6 xDDG plus 13 x FFG)

They propose another two x Type 45 DDG and increasing to 16 x GSC

That's 24 combatants

SDSR made decisions in 2010 at the time Russia was no where to be seen now the situation is changed

Loss of critical mass is a core issue now

Adding BMD is also now on the cards, as well as offensive capability for DDG programme (Harpoon) which is already in full swing for 4 DDG

Let's see what come of it
 
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Scratch said:
After the initial reports there wasn't really any more info so far. What was initially said was that the aircraft was on departure and experianced a (multi-)engine failure right after lift off. The captain declared an emergency and stated intentions to come back to the airport to land. The reports said that according to bystanding laymen eyewitnesses the plane made a rather sharp left turn. It then, somewhere on the way back to final, struck a powerline pole or radio mast and crashlanded in a field.
That is what I have so far and is probably more speculative then certain ...
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Thank you master Scratch, losing power on all four engines simultaneously would almost certainly be a fuel issue, and take-off is the most critical time to lose a single engine. While a lightly loaded A-400 or C-130J will do some amazing things on departure with a light load and four turning and burning, the A-400 in particular has a very highly profiled wing with multiple high lift devices. Those devices gain a great deal of the effectiveness from be "blown" by the prop-wash or jet wash as in the case of the C-17?

My point is that during departure the aircraft is in a very draggy high lift profile and requires "all" that thrust to maintain a positive rate of climb, once you begin to turn you are of course rolling the aircraft at very low airspeed, and applying a very substantial amount of aft stick, this bleeds energy at a very high rate?

That there are two who survived, (pray for them please), tells us the AC did in fact maintain flying speed and aircraft directional control as well as he could. We will continue to analyze and hopefully have an answer or at least an inclination of what caused the crash very shortly with the two black boxes in hand.
 
asif iqbal

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For those who don't under stand uk politics and military strategy

Conservatives basically killed all the prospects of military expansion in the UK the Tory chancellor is anti carrier and refuses to accept any funds for new ships

SDSR in 2010 pretty much explains it all

Labour was thorough and sensible in SDSR in 1998 which called for two carriers which are under construction and put the navy high on agenda but then comes the £38 billion "black hole" and Tony Blair basically raided the defence budget for funding wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

Lib dems really have no clue on how to run military they advocated building 3 x SSBN and patrolling only when tensions are high!? How can you judge international affairs tensions don't tell you before they arrive which is why you have "forward base policy"

UKIP are a bunch of anti immigration racist thugs

And my favourite party SNP are all for new systems just not nuclear weapons

Now election is over what's the thoughts??

Well I think Torys might call for 2% GDP at minimum since Russia seems to be knocking on UKs doorstep every other day
 
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Naval Today said:
On the 15th May 2015 Lt Cdr BJ Smith assumed command of the oldest commissioned warship in the world, HMS Victory.

In a brief ceremony held in the Great Cabin, Lt Cdr Smith became the 101st Commanding Officer and in keeping with tradition, signed the ship’s special record book.

Lt Cdr Smith’s previous employment was at Navy Command Headquarters where he was responsible for Surface Ships Force Development.
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You can get a feel for, and realize how old this ship is, when you consider that during the great battle of Trafalgar in 1805, Admiral Horatio Nelson's life blood was shed on its decks during his great victory over the combined French and Spanish fleets.

The vessel was already 40 years old (having been launched in 1765) when that battle occurred.
 
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Thank you master Scratch, losing power on all four engines simultaneously would almost certainly be a fuel issue, and take-off is the most critical time to lose a single engine. While a lightly loaded A-400 or C-130J will do some amazing things on departure with a light load and four turning and burning, the A-400 in particular has a very highly profiled wing with multiple high lift devices. Those devices gain a great deal of the effectiveness from be "blown" by the prop-wash or jet wash as in the case of the C-17?

My point is that during departure the aircraft is in a very draggy high lift profile and requires "all" that thrust to maintain a positive rate of climb, once you begin to turn you are of course rolling the aircraft at very low airspeed, and applying a very substantial amount of aft stick, this bleeds energy at a very high rate?

That there are two who survived, (pray for them please), tells us the AC did in fact maintain flying speed and aircraft directional control as well as he could. We will continue to analyze and hopefully have an answer or at least an inclination of what caused the crash very shortly with the two black boxes in hand.
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Airbus has put out an FSB to check for possible engine controller anomalies following the A-400 crash in Seville??? one of the survivors had alluded to multiple engine failures, the early suspect is an anomaly in the interface with the aircraft/engine controllers??? Very serious, and an area that has caused past issues?????
 
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Combined Task Force 150’s (CTF-150) flagship, French Ship (FS) Var, in the Indian Ocean with Her Majesty’s Ship (HMS) Richmond. Commander CTF150 Captain (Capt) Crignola flew to HMS Richmand and met with the Commanding officer, Commander (Cdr) Anderson onboard the British ship. Afterwards, FS Var conducted replenishment at sea with Richmond under a rough sea and rainy weather. During the sensitive manoeuvres, which require a high degree of interoperability between both navies, fuel was efficiently and successfully transferred to HMS Richmond.
 
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Naval Today said:
The forward section of Britain’s biggest future warship is now outwardly complete after engineers successfully attached the final part of HMS Prince of Wales’ bow.

After some exact calculations to get the centre of gravity spot on, the 620-tonne block was raised by the enormous Goliath crane which dominates the north bank of the Forth and then put down on its final position on the front of the ship in the dry dock.

The upper bow has been constructed in four huge sections, all built at the Appledore yard in Devon, then shipped to Rosyth, where Prince of Wales is taking shape in the same enlarged dry dock where her older sister Queen Elizabeth was pieced together.

Lifting the second ship’s upper bow segment into place comes just days after the forward island – home, among some 100 compartments, to the carrier’s bridge – was also fixed into position on the flight deck.
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She's looking very good. Moving along quite nicely.
 
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a promise made:
Fallon: UK Will Meet NATO Spending Target This Financial Year
The Defence Secretary, Michael Fallon, has confirmed that Britain will continue to meet the NATO target of spending two per cent of national income on defence in the current financial year.

He was responding to a report in the Times newspaper that the MoD has been told to cut the defence budget by £1 billion, which would make it harder to keep military spending above the NATO minimum, it's claimed.

But Mr Fallon says the stories in the press are about the current financial year, adding that it's right that government departments keep to the spending targets set two years ago.
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