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sequ said:

With modern day simulation and computing, it took 17-18 launches to certify the Goktug missiles while it took 780 launches for the AIM-120 to certify.

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I.e. no money for a proper test campaign, but models look good.

If final test results are fine in the 17-18 launches then everything turns out in the good way. The sole problem is that when simulations differs from reality then BAD THINGS starts to happen. Like the recent few Starship launches for instance.

Gloire_bb said:

I.e. no money for a proper test campaign, but models look good.

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Keep in mind that the AIM-120 has gone through a dozen variants, whereas the Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan are still in their first iteration, with the initial batch delivered only last year. However, additional variants are already in active development - including a NASAMS equivalent and naval point-defense system adaptations currently undergoing testing.




While the significantly lower budget is certainly a factor, I wouldn't underestimate the impact of modern computing and testing capabilities. That said, it's not as though the program lacked flight and ballistic testing as well - the missiles have been rigorously undergoing flight trials since 2016-17.

It's a long story, because most nations try to save money on weapon development one way or another, especially when majority of them choses between cut weapon test campaigns and not having anything at all.

Failure is certainly not a guaranteed.
But a big reason US weapons are held in such high regard - and tend to perform as advertised, - is their extensive, generous testing campaigns, themselves coming from both deep pockets and painful WW2 memory (big torpedo scandal is the most famous case).

Testing and bringing product to serial standard is both the most expensive part of weapon development, and the most attractive one for cuts.

Gloire_bb said:

It's a long story, because most nations try to save money on weapon development one way or another, especially when majority of them choses between cut weapon test campaigns and not having anything at all.

Failure is certainly not a guaranteed.
But a big reason US weapons are held in such high regard - and tend to perform as advertised, - is their extensive, generous testing campaigns, themselves coming from both deep pockets and painful WW2 memory (big torpedo scandal is the most famous case).

Testing and bringing product to serial standard is both the most expensive part of weapon development, and the most attractive one for cuts.

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Ukrainian field shows otherwise

The Turks should be thankful for every day TRNC is still in their hands. That might change sooner than later.

Just my two cents.