Turkey Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

sequ

Captain
Registered Member

Turkey`s Only Domestic and National Underwater Environment Model (SORTAM)​

Issue 110
The Underwater Acoustic Environment Model (SORTAM) is the core product of ‘Koç Bilgi ve Savunma Teknolojileri’ (KoçSavunma) in modeling & simulation business area.. The main advantage of SORTAM is that the other products manufactured by only a handful companies in the world is suspectable to high licensing prices and applied quotas.
WhatsApp%20Image%202021-10-22%20at%2011_37_19%20(3).jpeg

Although the usage needs of underwater environment models are well known by Naval Warfare specialists, it would be helpful to bring to the attention of all decision-makers why these software tools for a very specific purpose are needed. In this context, if we compare SORTAM to a key, it is possible to say that without the key, which is the first link in the chain, it is not possible to succeed in anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and submarine warfare (SW).
Since ASW and SW are conducted and concluded under the sea, they highly depend on underwater acoustic environment sensors. Therefore, SONAR (Sound Navigation and Ranging) systems working with sound waves in the underwater acoustic environment play a leading role in executing the basic search, detection, identification, recognition, tracking, and attack methods. All other technologies that use the higher parts of the frequency band, especially magnetic and electro-optical, are used as complementary sensors for these warfare types alongside SONAR. Technological projections for the foreseeable future also indicate that acoustics will continue to be used as the primary sensors in ASW and SW. As a result, the SONAR technology, which has been in use for nearly a century, has basically not changed much, so the winner will be the one who makes the best use of the underwater acoustic environment.
WhatsApp%20Image%202021-10-22%20at%2011_37_19%20(1).jpeg

Since the acoustic conditions in the water, temperature, pressure and salinity factors bend the linear propagation of sound waves, it is vital to know where these factors (which are constantly changing according to the environment) will carry the acoustic signals emitted by the sonars and where the sound cannot reach. In this information beam, called the sound propagation profile, elements operating both active and passive sonar will be able to estimate the range of their devices.
To make this estimation in a very simple way, first of all, the elements on the battlefield need to process the temperature or sound velocity data in their region, which is collected via XBT or XSV devices, with software modeling to make sonar range estimation (varies with depth). While these estimation modeling tools were based on manual calculation methods in the past, with the transition to computer technology, this process can be done much faster and closer to reality, with programs based on software algorithms, and many parameters that seem like details but have an effect on accurate estimations can be processed precisely.
WhatsApp%20Image%202021-10-22%20at%2011_37_18.jpeg

As a result, the tactical commanders on the battlefield can deploy their surface, underwater and air assets in the most advantageous positions, decide to operate their active sonars and make the most of the advantages of passive listening, only if they can predict sound propagation profiles as closely as possible in advance. The best opening moves required to win a chess game played at the expense of surviving or sinking can only be achieved with the effective use of underwater environment models.
Unless the underwater environment conditions are well predicted, it will not be possible to use the SONAR devices, with a value of at least two-digit million dollars, carried on each ASW platform.
As stated at the beginning, SORTAM is the only option that can meet this need domestically and nationally. Just like in the key example, its cost is negligible compared to the investment made in SONAR devices.
WhatsApp%20Image%202021-10-22%20at%2011_37_19.jpeg

During the development phase, SORTAM has been tested in real environments for a long time by taking advantage of the opportunities provided by the Turkish Naval Forces and has reached a level that can compete with its foreign counterparts thanks to the feedback and needs of the users to the system. The selection of SORTAM for the Pakistan MİLGEM Project (BABÜR Class Corvettes) has made the KoçSavunma Family proud, proving its worth in the international arena. The prestige of serving the highly respected Pakistan Navy is very valuable to us.
The primary mission of all Navies in the world is to be ready for war at any time. KoçSavunma is ready to serve with SORTAM on the same day it is requested to provide underwater environment modeling service, which is an indispensable element of combat readiness and ASW and SW, to the customer, including all friendly and Allied Naval Forces.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

sequ

Captain
Registered Member
Interview with Tubitak SAGE director mr. Okumus


Some points of the interview:

  • "Ramjet propulsion will reach a certain maturity and land tests of Gokhan ramjet BVR will be done. Afterwards, it will be tested from aerial platforms. Test firing of Gokhan will begin in 2023"
  • "Göktuğ project (Bozdogan WVR and Gokdogan BVR) has passed the final stage. The missiles passed many tough tests. Bozdoğan's hit to kill shot was already shared(in april this year). The production of Goktuğ missiles will start in 2022. We can't give every detail about missile's features, but the tests are in the final stages"
  • "We cannot give details but we will not have any problems with the Goktuğ's integration to F16"
  • "We go far beyond the requirements in missiles (range, seeker head capacity) we develop with our own resources. It is not correct to publish some information of missiles in open sources. Shared information is something that should be known in terms of security. We can't even share the names of some projects."
  • "Som-J is a project that has progressed with composite materials since its design. Composite technology has great contributions to the missile. Composite technology will be used more frequently on different platforms."
  • "In the coming period, we will also see the Göktuğ system as air defense missiles. We will even see the land-based version of the Gokhan Ramjet BVR missile."
 

Philister

Junior Member
Registered Member
First test fire of Siper missile! Looks like RF guidance and fitted with a booster. Quite a slim design. I guess this is what was referred to as 'X' by Anil Shahin. The booster reminds me of the booster design of the Atmaca AShM. Another proof that an entire ecosystem of knowledge and experience is being created that is contributing to the rapid development of newer weapon systems.

View attachment 78807View attachment 78808

You can see booster seperation at 0:40 and ignition of mainbody rocketmotor at 0:42:

Does Siper uses the same RF seeker as gokdogan?
 
  • Like
Reactions: mit

sequ

Captain
Registered Member
Does Siper uses the same RF seeker as gokdogan?
Yes and no.

It seems this ballistic test missile of the Siper is using the same seeker as the Hisar-RF and Gokdogan BVR missile (albeit empty without seeker and electronics because of the nature of the test).

There is lots of talk that the Siper will be able to launch various missiles with various ranges starting from 70+ to 150km+, divided in Blocks (I,II III and so on). Depending on which missile it uses, it could also use a new seeker design.

Time will tell.
 

sequ

Captain
Registered Member
Or maybe they managed to integrate it with the AN/APG-68 and launched it at beyond visual range but are keeping it hush-hush because of some breach of agreement with the US.

"We cannot give details but we will not have any problems with the Goktuğ's integration to F16"

I guess this answers the question. It has been stated before by Okumus that there is no problem with integrating the Goktug missiles on Turkish F-16's but there is understandable worry about it. On the other hand, we've seen Emirate PGM's integrated on Egyptian F-16's.
 
Top