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[Thecore]

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Really think it’s a good idea to open this Pandora’s box? Remember the Cloudflare and AWS hiccups recently? You ain’t seen nothing yet.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Yes open that can of worms. I bet the US will declare they get to do it but no one else can. Enlist private firms to be cyber attacked. And of course they're going by the assumption that their hackers are the best. If as they claim China has hacked into everyone, that means China is already "in" waiting for the green light. There's a report that in Russia all German luxury cars have stopped working. Oh so Germany has a "kill-switch" on their cars as the West has accused China has on all their EVs... Yes accuse others of what you're already doing and voila... what the West is alarmed at the accusation of China doing what they have been already doing and it's not as serious anymore when you find out they were doing it all this time.

Remember the good ole days when the US demanded China adopt Western AI because there was an assumption US tech was ethical and they wouldn't do anything subversive with it? They accused the Chinese version of TikTok was educational while the American was intentionally not and know they're paranoid over Chinese educational AI in toys. Now they don't talk of such nonsense anymore because everything the West does is about brainwashing people even children into their favor.

 

[CMP]

Yes open that can of worms. I bet the US will declare they get to do it but no one else can. Enlist private firms to be cyber attacked. And of course they're going by the assumption that their hackers are the best. If as they claim China has hacked into everyone, that means China is already "in" waiting for the green light. There's a report that in Russia all German luxury cars have stopped working. Oh so Germany has a "kill-switch" on their cars as the West has accused China has on all their EVs... Yes accuse others of what you're already doing and voila... what the West is alarmed at the accusation of China doing what they have been already doing and it's not as serious anymore when you find out they were doing it all this time.

Remember the good ole days when the US demanded China adopt Western AI because there was an assumption US tech was ethical and they wouldn't do anything subversive with it? They accused the Chinese version of TikTok was educational while the American was intentionally not and know they're paranoid over Chinese educational AI in toys. Now they don't talk of such nonsense anymore because everything the West does is about brainwashing people even children into their favor.

They're going to pay private companies to hack China and then pretend their country and government had nothing to do with it. They think rhetorical trickery and loopholes will let them inflict attacks without retaliation.

 

[iewgnem]

Really think it’s a good idea to open this Pandora’s box? Remember the Cloudflare and AWS hiccups recently? You ain’t seen nothing yet.

Its non-news because US private firms has always been central to US spying and cyberattacks.
Not everyone memoryholed Snowden and National Security Letters

 

[manqiangrexue]

They're going to pay private companies to hack China and then pretend their country and government had nothing to do with it. They think rhetorical trickery and loopholes will let them inflict attacks without retaliation.

And then when they get hacked back, they're gonna cry about it on media about how China uses underhanded tactics. Then when people point out that that's the same thing they did, just done more effectively, they're going to argue that Chinese retaliatory hacking went too far and beyond the scope of what separates competitiveness and hostility, just like when China put them on the floor with the rare earth ban.

 

[manqiangrexue]

I don't have any evidence that this was a Chinese ship or an Iranian ship, but you carried out the argument in a dishonest manner just so you support the holy book's narrative. That part is clear to me. I guess we won't know now since the foreign ministries of both parties decided to sweep the who incident under the rug as usual.

No, I did not miss that. Since those ships have been going back and forth for about a year now, as widely reported, my assumption was that this is simply the latest example of the aforementioned. There is ample precedent, and the WSJ editors clearly saw fit to frame this latest incident in that context. On the other hand, what evidence or precedent do you have for your assertion that they are Chinese ships and property? Anything at all?

Iranian retaliation is more sugggestive evidence that the ship boarded was Iranian.

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