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Iracundus

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In his and his supporters' mind, magnets are mysterious impractical (since he believes they don't work if they get wet) things used only by nerds and which those Chinese nerds have tricked the world into using. Back in August he said: "You know, China intelligently went and they sort of took a monopoly of the world's magnets, and nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago, 'Let's all do magnets.k"

He seems to have the crystallized idea probably from his early youth about not getting electrical appliances wet and somehow conflated that with magnets, maybe after hearing the words electromagnetism or electromagnetic, because he has gone on and on about how magnets and electric motors supposedly don't work if you get them wet with as little as pouring a glass of water on them.

It is all part of his culture war against education and intelligence. He and his supporters have associated magnets, electric motors, renewable energy, batteries, and higher education with being impractical, useless, and snobbish in contrast with the salt of the earth blue collar types with their solid reliable black smoke belching fossil fuel burning muscle car engines. It's not about facts, but about psychological "feel" to them. I am probably showing my age but I am reminded of that old TV sitcom Home Improvement. For those that don't know, the main character Tim (played by Tim Allen) was a home improvement show host and would grunt like an ape while extolling his idea of macho tools and tech, while mocking his assistant as being wimpy or overly refined. The joke was of course the host would fail and embarrass himself.
 
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Has Trump read and fully understood the contents of Xi Jinping's "The Governance of China" book? Everything has to start from there if Trump wants to be an American Xi.

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JD Vance and his backers are schemeing. I predict they'll soft coup Trump next year. Not to the extent of replacing him, but push out Trump's loyalists and appointees with Thiel picks. Trump's power base will have crumbled from division (ex. Tucker has already split with him) and he will have no choice but to comply. They will implement an aggressive and focused anti-China agenda, bringing us to the edge of war over Taiwan that even Biden didn't dare to do.
 

generalmeng

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JD Vance and his backers are schemeing. I predict they'll soft coup Trump next year. Not to the extent of replacing him, but push out Trump's loyalists and appointees with Thiel picks. Trump's power base will have crumbled from division (ex. Tucker has already split with him) and he will have no choice but to comply. They will implement an aggressive and focused anti-China agenda, bringing us to the edge of war over Taiwan that even Biden didn't dare to do.
War over Taiwan will be painful on the short run, but in the long run, pretty much mean China gets the whole east Asia. People seriously underestimate china's military ability, and over estimates that of Japan, Korea, and Taiwan.

USA can't even win a proxiwar against Russia, now they want a hot war against China?

RUssia is pretty much eyeing those Baltic states and Poland right now, is uncle sam really that ignorant?
 

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Japan going nuclear is a sufficient casua belli for a China to take military action. I don't think anyone should really doubt this.
If you guys really believe this then I have nothing else to say. Lol
All I would add is that knowing the CCP there will be zero military intervention. The only place I see China intervening militarily is in a case where they think they will lose Taiwan. That's the only case CCP will declare war and intervene. There is almost zero probability they will do so over Japan developing nukes.
 
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If you guys really believe this then I have nothing else to say. Lol
All I would add is that knowing the CCP there will be zero military intervention. The only place I see China intervening militarily is in a case where they think they will lose Taiwan. That's the only case CCP will.devalre war and intervene. There is almost zero probability they will do so over Japan developing nukes.
What if the Chinese Communist Party has been deliberately appearing weak over the past four decades? Before China integrated into the U.S.-led globalized economy, I don't think China seemed so "passive."
 

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Well should there ever be an end to the US-Japan alliance, survival would be of upmost importance for Tokyo, so nuclear weapon would be the only option. Given the examples of NK and China in the 1960s, no amount of sanctions would stop a determined pursuer of nukes even at the cost of great economic hardship. That leaves a majour all-out war the only option (and even without US involvement, countries like India and Australia would likely join Japan in a last ditched effort to weaken China geopolitically) except China would have no choice but becoming the aggressor this time around. The most troubling scenario for China would be if the US were to decide to terminate its alliance with Japan whilst guaranteeing a nuclear umbrella for Japan up to the day when Japan’s nukes enters LOW status.
Which is why I have argued before that US presence in Asia is actually beneficial to China in some ways. It keeps south Korea and Japan in check by preventing them from.dveeloping nukes , same with Taiwan. Remember that it was the US that made Taiwan give up their secret nuclear program. Many people forget this. China could do nothing when Taiwan launch the program and it was the CIA that infiltrated Taiwans defense organisation and uncover the truth and sabotaged the program . US policy has long been non profileration irrespective of ally or not, reason Japan and South Korea despite long having the capabilities and means to easily develop nukes have si far refrain from.doing so. China by contrast has failed to stop North Korea from doing so. N.Korea did so because they dont trust china to defend them, since China's stance has since been ambiguous towards them, and neither has china been able to reassure them enough to even change their economic and political reforms needed to open up. In this case China's policy towards North Korea has been a failure to be honest..

In short, the moment the US leaves Asia , Japan and South Korea will easily develop nukes for obvious reasons since they know that's the best way they can dissuade their adversary North Korea and china who already have them..there is almost no doubt about this. So US presence acts as a stabilizing and reasuring factor ironically.
 
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