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[manqiangrexue]

If you guys really believe this then I have nothing else to say. Lol
All I would add is that knowing the CCP there will be zero military intervention. The only place I see China intervening militarily is in a case where they think they will lose Taiwan. That's the only case CCP will declare war and intervene. There is almost zero probability they will do so over Japan developing nukes.

I'm gonna agree to this point. China is not prepared to invade Japan. Only fight battles you are prepared for and Taiwan is the battle we are prepared for. China will likely use punitive trade measures such as banning rare earths, tourism, imports, etc... up to perhaps constructing some monster nuclear missile class and naming it Japan Slayer or something. But direct military intervention is not a sensible option for China at this point.

Which is why I have argued before that US presence in Asia is actually beneficial to China in some ways. It keeps south Korea and Japan in check by preventing them from.dveeloping nukes , same with Taiwan. Remember that it was the US that made Taiwan give up their secret nuclear program. Many people forget this. China could do nothing when Taiwan launch the program and it was the CIA that infiltrated Taiwans defense organisation and uncover the truth and sabotaged the program . US policy has long been non profileration irrespective of ally or not, reason Japan and South Korea despite long having the capabilities and means to easily develop nukes have si far refrain from.doing so. China by contrast has failed to stop North Korea from doing so. N.Korea did so because they dont trust china to defend them, since China's stance has since been ambiguous towards them, and neither has china been able to reassure them enough to even change their economic and political reforms needed to open up. In this case China's policy towards North Korea has been a failure to be honest..

In short, the moment the US leaves Asia , Japan and South Korea will easily develop nukes for obvious reasons since they know that's the best way they can dissuade their adversary North Korea and china who already have them..there is almost no doubt about this. So US presence acts as a stabilizing and reasuring factor ironically.

However, I will disagree with this point. This is because nuclear Korea or Japan don't actually pose a threat to China because they are under a propaganist view that they must do this to survive and deter a Chinese invasion/decapitation of their countries. Since China does not actually have this intent, but has every ability to survive nuclear strikes from these small countries while delivering unsurvivable retaliation, nothing will change. Just because North Korea has nukes doesn't mean that it is equal to the US; it just means that the US won't dare invade it. Same with China; we were never going to invade these countries but did and will continue to enjoy a favorable power dynamic when interacting with them, nuclear or not.

So basically, this is a moot point, and not really an issue mitigated by the US presense. The US presense itself, however, is the greatest evil facing China in Asia. For the US, it is actually on the table to get every one of its own assets in Asia as well as the assets and populations of Japan and Korea decimated if it could inflict enough damage to prevent China's rise and preserve American dominance. Japan and Korea are aggressive to China under US leadership but will be defensive on their own. In America's absense, they will gradually understand China's benevolence and drop their hostilities altogether in favor of cooperation because that is where all the fruits lie for everyone. So, there is no benefit to China from American presense in Asia; it mitigates a non-issue but adds an aggressive and desperate imperialistic evil.

 

[AssassinsMace]

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In his and his supporters' mind, magnets are mysterious impractical (since he believes they don't work if they get wet) things used only by nerds and which those Chinese nerds have tricked the world into using. Back in August he said: "You know, China intelligently went and they sort of took a monopoly of the world's magnets, and nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago, 'Let's all do magnets.k"

He seems to have the crystallized idea probably from his early youth about not getting electrical appliances wet and somehow conflated that with magnets, maybe after hearing the words electromagnetism or electromagnetic, because he has gone on and on about how magnets and electric motors supposedly don't work if you get them wet with as little as pouring a glass of water on them.

It is all part of his culture war against education and intelligence. He and his supporters have associated magnets, electric motors, renewable energy, batteries, and higher education with being impractical, useless, and snobbish in contrast with the salt of the earth blue collar types with their solid reliable black smoke belching fossil fuel burning muscle car engines. It's not about facts, but about psychological "feel" to them. I am probably showing my age but I am reminded of that old TV sitcom Home Improvement. For those that don't know, the main character Tim (played by Tim Allen) was a home improvement show host and would grunt like an ape while extolling his idea of macho tools and tech, while mocking his assistant as being wimpy or overly refined. The joke was of course the host would fail and embarrass himself.

Trump looks like he belongs in the era of powdered wigs (he looks like he's suppose to put on one of those wigs) and apparently the mentality too scared of witchcraft. Dumb people just don't understand...

 

[FriedButter]

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Trump warns Supreme Court tariff ruling could trigger $3 Trillion ‘unwind’​

President Donald Trump issued a warning Monday on Truth Social, claiming the U.S. Supreme Court received "the wrong numbers" in a pending case that challenges his authority to impose tariffs under emergency powers.

Trump said an adverse decision could lead to an economic "unwind" exceeding $3 trillion, calling it "an insurmountable National Security Event" that would be "devastating to the future of our Country — possibly non-sustainable."

The high court is set to review whether Trump’s use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to levy tariffs on imported goods without additional congressional approval was lawful.

A ruling against Trump could require the government to refund billions of dollars in duties collected since 2024, potentially reshaping U.S. trade policy and testing the limits of presidential economic authority.

According to Treasury data reviewed by FOX Business, the U.S. collected more than $213 billion in tariff revenue through late September 2025, including record monthly totals of more than $31 billion in August and more than $31 billion in September. Earlier in the year, revenues ranged from $17.4 billion in April to $29 billion in July.

The figures highlight the massive scope of Trump’s tariff regime, which supporters credit with reviving U.S. manufacturing and reducing reliance on foreign suppliers. Critics argue the duties act as hidden taxes on importers and consumers, fueling higher prices.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates tariffs enacted between January and May 2025 will cut federal deficits by roughly $2.8 trillion over the next decade, while slightly lowering GDP and raising inflation by about 0.4 percentage points through 2027.

Trump’s $3 trillion figure roughly aligns with the upper range of those estimates, though economists stress it represents an interpretation, not a verified loss figure.

The post underscores Trump’s effort to frame the upcoming Supreme Court decision as a fight for economic sovereignty and national security, rather than a narrow dispute over trade law.

So it went from costing $2 trillion to $3 trillion now. I fully expect the short full will be covered by gutting healthcare insurance subsidies. The one that Democrats folded the moment their rich donors were impacted from the mass flight cancellations due to the shut down.

 

[RoastGooseHKer]

Which is why I have argued before that US presence in Asia is actually beneficial to China in some ways. It keeps south Korea and Japan in check by preventing them from.dveeloping nukes , same with Taiwan. Remember that it was the US that made Taiwan give up their secret nuclear program. Many people forget this. China could do nothing when Taiwan launch the program and it was the CIA that infiltrated Taiwans defense organisation and uncover the truth and sabotaged the program . US policy has long been non profileration irrespective of ally or not, reason Japan and South Korea despite long having the capabilities and means to easily develop nukes have si far refrain from.doing so. China by contrast has failed to stop North Korea from doing so. N.Korea did so because they dont trust china to defend them, since China's stance has since been ambiguous towards them, and neither has china been able to reassure them enough to even change their economic and political reforms needed to open up. In this case China's policy towards North Korea has been a failure to be honest..

In short, the moment the US leaves Asia , Japan and South Korea will easily develop nukes for obvious reasons since they know that's the best way they can dissuade their adversary North Korea and china who already have them..there is almost no doubt about this. So US presence acts as a stabilizing and reasuring factor

Absolutely! So an ideal G2 would be for the U.S. to keep its alliance system with Japan and South Korea intact. Beijing would recognise Japan and South Korea belonging to U.S. traditional imperial sphere. In exchange, Taiwan would be reunified with the PRC, and Washington would recognise China’s dominion over the South China Sea and parts of Indian Ocean so long a U.S. vessels would be given free passage without interference. Both Washington and Beijing would work to stop the rise and militarisation of other powers like Japan and India. And here you go: you got a Concert of Great Powers (like Congress of Vienna) between US, China, and even Russia each hold dominion over their own spheres to prevent the rise of other powers. It means the three powers would not have to engage in life-struggles, whilst empowering other trouble-making middle powers, per prescription by structural realists.

 

[Wrought]

Absolutely! So an ideal G2 would be for the U.S. to keep its alliance system with Japan and South Korea intact. Beijing would recognise Japan and South Korea belonging to U.S. traditional imperial sphere. In exchange, Taiwan would be reunified with the PRC, and Washington would recognise China’s dominion over the South China Sea and parts of Indian Ocean so long a U.S. vessels would be given free passage without interference. Both Washington and Beijing would work to stop the rise and militarisation of other powers like Japan and India. And here you go: you got a Concert of Great Powers (like Congress of Vienna) between US, China, and even Russia each hold dominion over their own spheres to prevent the rise of other powers. It means the three powers would not have to engage in life-struggles, whilst empowering other trouble-making middle powers, per prescription by structural realists.

Even if US was willing to go for such an arrangement (lol, lmao even), it would never last. A balance of power is only sustainable so long as the powers remain balanced in whatever original configuration was setup. But the whole problem for the US is that Chinese power keeps rising. The Concert of Vienna lasted as long as it did (which wasn't that long) because you had multiple roughly equal powers all jockeying with each other. A bipolar configuration is far less stable and far more zero-sum.

 

[GulfLander]

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