Trump 2.0 official thread

Michael90

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Ah. Salvation of Tesla. That’s the motive.

Elon spent $250 million to elect Trump. Trump owes Elon.

Plus yall really think Elon is going to jeopardize his SpacX business by publicly feuding with Trump. Billions of $$$ in federal contracts. Billions more with Trump Golden dome project.
Dude calm down. You don't have to convince yourself over something so obvious to everyone. ELON and Trump had a fallout. It won't be the first nor last fallout to happen in politics,especially with Trump (many of his former officials have fallen out with him). So this is nothing surprising, I was actually expecting this but not this fast, I thought it will happen a year from now or so.
Moreover, I'm afraid Tesla worries won't be going away in Europe, unfortunately people there won't forget Musks involvement with the extreme far right parties and all his critics of the E. U and European government Liberal system itself. Its hard to build a brand image but so easy to destroy. Once you have tarnished your brand image, it takes alot and a long time to come back from that. That was a really bad move from him. Don't know what he was thinking
 

Captainquirk

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Dude calm down. You don't have to convince yourself over something so obvious to everyone. ELON and Trump had a fallout. It won't be the first nor last fallout to happen in politics,especially with Trump (many of his former officials have fallen out with him). So this is nothing surprising, I was actually expecting this but not this fast, I thought it will happen a year from now or so.
Moreover, I'm afraid Tesla worries won't be going away in Europe, unfortunately people there won't forget Musks involvement with the extreme far right parties and all his critics of the E. U and European government Liberal system itself. Its hard to build a brand image but so easy to destroy. Once you have tarnished your brand image, it takes alot and a long time to come back from that. That was a really bad move from him. Don't know what he was thinking
Guess what’s the fastest way for Elon to repair that brand image
 

Michael90

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Let's just say even Prigozhin had 2 month between his uprising and his eventual death where it looked like all was forgiven and he would walk away from it all. People like Putin and Trump don't forget betrayal that easily.
Prihozhin was an idiot for stopping at the gates of Moscow with his crew, thinking he could negotiate with a no nonsense dictator like Putin. I font know what he thought will happen, that Putin will take it easy with him and be grateful to him for stopping from Marching to Moscow? Lol Guess he believed Putin was a democrat or something. Lmao. Well, he like others who tried to get in Putin's way are now buried 6ft underground. Lol in his next life he should never make such a fatal mistake again.. Lol
 

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Just after the Xi Trump call?


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(Is this like a US strategy, like even during Biden era? Like they had some "positive" event like meting or calls, then after they do actions like sanctions or restrictions etc? Will these hav effect on June9 meeting?)
It was a mistake to, seemingly, agree so easily with the US about rare earth exports. They probably think they got the upper hand now

Should scrap the "deal", demand chip export easing, or otherwise let those patriotic US beautiful car factories idle

let Trump know the consequences of breaking deals. Like imagine just a single day afterwards and they pull this sht
 
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Michael90

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Guess what’s the fastest way for Elon to repair that brand image
I don't think you understand the damage that has been done. Most tesla buyers (even more so in Europe) were climate change believers and green energy advocates to some extent and thus mostly Liberal leaning people with good background and upper middle class, so they are huge proponents of electric vehicles (EVs) and clean energy in general. They actually believed in Tesla and Elons musks publicly stated objectives of making a good change in the world and achieving climate change objectives of changing the world by limiting car polluting gas and petrol auto industry worldwide and Tesla slogans of having the goal to revolutionize transportation and make it “clean” has been removed from the Tesla website. Moreover his support for trump who is a anti climate change believer and anti green energy individual. All this is seen as a deep betrayal for most of Tesla buyers in the Western world. So this is something deeper than just not buying a tesla it's also ideological. Musk betrayed all of this, by showing it seems he didn't believe in any of the things he said and was just for show. The only place where his sales and brand image won't be impacted by his moves is China where people don't really care much about such issues. But in the West Tesla will find it hard to keep goriwkg the way they were growing before..
 

Michael90

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Just after the Xi Trump call?


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(Is this like a US strategy, like even during Biden era? Like they had some "positive" event like meting or calls, then after they do actions like sanctions or restrictions etc? Will these hav effect on June9 meeting?)
Good thing actually. China should focus on only building nuclear power plants based on their own hualong one designs.. I don't understand why they even want to still be building nuclear power plants using US technology. Afterall, that should be considered a national security threat. Imagine the USA using CHINESE technology /companies to build her nuclear power plants. That will rightfully be considered a national seciruty risk.. Afterall, they are not allies.
I understand China was very behind in the past, so to catch up they had to use US technology and learn from them through tech transfers and working together, but now that they have build their own designs there is no reason to keep relying on US technology for nuclear power plants.

As I said before, as China grows and the US feels more and more threaten by her rise, things will only get worse not better.. So expect more sanctions in many other sectors. I believe the next industry will be capital markets where Chinese tech companies will be asked to hand over all their data and books to the US or risk being delisted from US stock exchanges. The USA has already start threatening this anyway so China better get her capital/stock markets in order and enact reforms for her companies to be willing to list on the mainland itself.
 
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Senior Federal Reserve official puts ‘50-50’ odds on tariffs sparking sustained US inflation​

A senior Federal Reserve official has put the chances that Donald Trump’s trade war leads to a sustained burst of inflation at “50-50”, as he warned US rate-setters would face uncertainty “right through the summer”.

St Louis Fed president Alberto Musalem told the Financial Times that while Trump’s levies could boost inflation for “a quarter or two”, there was “an equally likely scenario where the impact of tariffs on prices could last longer”.

The Trump administration has already brought US tariffs on the country’s trading partners to the highest level in almost 90 years, threatening to fuel higher inflation and slow economic growth. The competing forces have prompted policymakers to adopt a wait-and-see approach after cutting interest rates by 1 percentage point during the second half of last year.

Bond markets have also been rattled in recent weeks by Trump’s “big, beautiful” budget bill, which Congress’s fiscal watchdog estimates will add $2.4tn to the public debt over the next decade. The bill passed the House last month but is still being debated in the Senate.

Musalem, who holds a vote on the Federal Open Market Committee this year, said officials could benefit from a favourable scenario where uncertainty over trade and fiscal policy “goes away in July”. He said that would put the Fed back on track to cut rates in September.

However, Musalem also raised the prospect of another scenario “where inflation begins to rise materially and we will not know whether that is a temporary, one-off increase in the price level or whether it has more persistence”.

Musalem added that “right now, it’s probably a 50-50 assessment” that either situation would emerge.

Economists say the Fed’s reluctance to cut is in large part due to the expectation that tariffs will raise US prices in the coming months and push headline PCE inflation from 2.1 per cent to levels well in excess of rate-setters’ goal of 2 per cent.

Recent surveys show consumers and businesses expect higher inflation in the coming months and years as tariffs take effect. Those expectations have raised concerns among Fed officials that people could lose faith in the central bank’s ability to keep inflation low.

The Fed’s deliberations come at a politically fraught moment for the central bank. Trump has repeatedly attacked chair Jay Powell for not cutting rates, and on Friday called for a “full point” reduction in borrowing costs.

Musalem said political interference could make it more difficult for the central bank to lower interest rates — saying independence was important as it allowed for “more anchored inflation expectations”.

Fed officials — including Musalem — see keeping inflation expectations in check, or “anchored”, as a vital precondition for cutting rates.

“If market-implied and/or survey measures of medium- to long-term inflation expectations begin to rise, at that point it becomes very important to prioritise price stability,” the St Louis Fed president said.

Musalem’s remarks, made on Friday, come ahead of the blackout period for the Fed’s mid-June policy vote, where officials will almost certainly keep interest rates on hold.

The FOMC will also publish a fresh round of quarterly economic projections.

Musalem said he did not “expect to change my numbers very much relative to the March round”, despite the more precarious economic environment following Trump’s so-called liberation day tariff announcement in early April.

“I think we still have some uncertainty. Through the summer, we need to understand what the trade negotiations may be, what legal challenges there may be, or how that resolves in terms of the tariffs. I’m also focusing on fiscal policy and what the shape of that is going to be along with immigration policy and regulatory policy.”

He said the market reaction to “liberation day” “certainly caught my attention”.

Musalem, who spent decades working in finance before joining the Fed, said: “There are days when markets send you a very clear message and that was one of those days.”

Investors responded to Trump’s policies by selling US equities and the dollar, as well as 10-year Treasury bonds. The unusual correlation signalled concerns among investors of the US’s long-held haven status.

Conversations with asset managers suggested that they were looking to gradually rebalance their portfolios even as markets had stabilised in recent weeks, Musalem said.

“The situation had been one of overweight US assets and underweight assets in other countries,” the St Louis Fed president said. “And asset managers are indicating that may change going forward.”
 
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