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lcloo
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Canton Fair, the World's largest trading fair has attracted more buyers than before. Also known as China Export Import Fair, it is an ongoing event that will end on May 15th. The number of buyers visiting the fair increased by 58.4% despite the Tariff war with Trump.
The first Canton Fair was held in 1957. It is held twice a year.
The 137th China Import and Export Fair, also known as the Canton Fair, welcomed 195,851 overseas buyers from 218 countries and regions as of April 24 – a year-on-year increase of 58.4 percent.
The first Canton Fair was held in 1957. It is held twice a year.
The 137th China Import and Export Fair, also known as the Canton Fair, welcomed 195,851 overseas buyers from 218 countries and regions as of April 24 – a year-on-year increase of 58.4 percent.
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AssassinsMace
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This is the new narrative talking point Repanicans are repeating to counter skepticism on Trump's lie that the Chinese are calling him and having talks. "China lies so who are you going to believe and if you don't, you must be Chinese communist sympathizer?" I saw Bessent on a morning round table show claiming China is lying about talking to Trump because they have to look like they're strong to the Chinese people. You mean exactly like what Trump is doing claiming Xi is calling to make it look to Americans that China is begging to him? Beijing doesn't have to worry about what the Chinese people think because it's a totalitarian system like the West likes to claim according to their own contradictory propaganda.
Now Putin seems to be throwing it into Trump's face by ignoring what Trump wants over Ukraine. Trump finally realizing he's not the one in command of the world like how he thought he was. Trump took the opportunity to have a photo-op of him meeting with Zelensky at the Pope's funeral to placate Europe now that he needs them to accept his tariffs and gang-up against China. Europe being a hypocrite because they want to link economic openness for China with dropping Russia. What happened to their criticism of China mixing politics and economics in spite of their own economics woes? Now Trump is threatening to reimpose reciprocal tariffs before his 90-day pause because no one is making deals with him because everyone is waiting to see what China does. They're all using China as the adjacent counter to Trump while not doing anything themselves. So what if US allies eventually align with Trump. Biden already accomplished that and US allied economies are all in the shitter.
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There is a difference between bilateral talks (which are happening as normal), and bilateral talks about Trump's tariffs (which are not happening). Bessent made the distinction himself.
I don't envy his position right now. He can't spout off like Navarro, because markets think he is the sane one and are watching his words for signals. He also can't come out and contradict Trump directly, because he wants to keep his job. But how are you supposed to say "my boss is completely full of shit" without actually saying it?
Majority of MAGA already hate Islam so it wouldn’t be hard to convince them to support a war with Iran.
China doesn’t even have to send weapons directly to Iran. They could send tech parts to Iran to help it mass produce their missiles and drones underground. That way in the event of war Iran can continually replenish their missile and drones to exhaust the US in a protected asymmetrical war of attrition.
I think China wouldn’t be directly involved since that is their usual stance. But it will probably end up being similar to the Ukraine Conflict via third party companies suppliers. Private companies looking for a quick buck or Iranian/state shell companies. Most likely Chinese material gets sold to companies in Russia which eventually gets transported or smuggled via the Caspian Sea.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Old rules no longer apply after April 2nd.
If America is moronic enough to directly get involved in a military attack against Iran, China will be stupid not to use the Ukraine precedent to send Iran all sorts of weapons for their legitimate self defence against foreign armed aggression. Because the more military assets America looses fighting Iran, the less viable their military options become for a war against China.
It will actually probably be the other way when it comes to arms smuggling, with a lot of things that was sent to Iran ending up making a big impact in Ukraine eventually. If the Europeans complain, China has perfect plausible deniability. But at the same time it gets to apply significant pressure on the Europeans as needed to keep them from trying to make any re-approachment with the Americans against China.
China has also been exceptionally nice and passive with all the shit India is stirring via its proxies in Pakistan attacking Chinese and Pakistani civilians and trying to undermine BRI.
India's worth is its potential to be a problematic rival to China for the West. Sitting back and letting them reach that stage IMO is a serious white space in Chinese foreign policy, in my personal opinion.
China is mistakenly hoping they can flip India from western camp. Russia tried it with Germany and Europe for 3 decades, but when the time came, we saw what happened.
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Still cheaper than prison made US clothing by 50 dollars.