The trade deal with Vietnam is looking really bad for Vietnam's economy, so I guess they'll get half of what they want. Really not the brightest.
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The Vietnamese is taught from pre-school that all Vietnam misfortune is because of China. Even the trade deal. They believe that China is responsible for this trade deal because how dare China route the trade flow via Vietnam. They believe that as long as China is gone, they will stop being misserable and can become like Japan Or South Korea. So economic damage? They see it as a price they are willing to pay.
You can't work with programmed NPCs. The best you can do is manipulate and manage them.
These stooges feel happy about putting a tax to US consumers.
Nah, i dont believe thats the case. You are going to the extreme end of things.vietnamese leaders are not emotional leaders who act without rational thinking and rhetorics based on emotions and ideology(like for example Iranian or north Korean leaders) vietnamese leaders dont adopt such behaviours. They do what they think will be in their countrys interests and growth irrespective of ideology/political system etc. If they were not pragmatic then vietnam wouldnt have changed her foriegn and domestic policy completely in the 90s and opened up and nornalised relatiions with the US/West/China and all her asian neighbours then pullout her troops and control from Cambodia and Laos(which were part of conditions given to normalised relations by foreign powers) and focused more on thier internal growth/economy.
Today they still follow similar policy of avoiding any alliance with a major power or antagonising one, but instead adopting a policy of being friendly or partners with every major power for the country's benefits and it has served them very well so far..so for you to expect them to go against the US is illogical and irrational. What will they gain from doing so? Lol. Can China completely replace the US market? China is more of an exporter to vietnam(transhipments and intermidiary goods) not an importer of vietnamese goods as much ,so its normal Vietnam will cave to US pressure to sign siuc a trade deal and still continue exporting her goods to the US(by far her largest market). I will do the same if i was in their shoes, afterall, they have no leverage against the US. Vietnam will still maintain her normal partnership with China though. They benefit either way..no reason to pick side. Only Iran and North Korean leaders do so for obvious reasons.
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Phrases like "better than expected" and "not as bad as I thought it would be" are bullshit spin phrases that don't mean anything. The straight talk is that sticker prices will go up and aggregate demand will go down. Of course, if you're "expecting" to get hit by a freight truck and instead you come out of it with just a broken leg, then that's certainly "better than expected".
Vietnam has far less R&D and education funding than China did at the same stage of development. And with Vietnam's poor resources, R&D and education funding is a leading indicator of economic performance.
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I was invited to a friend's BBQ a couple weeks back. Interesting people there. One was his wife who was from Vietnam and a Republican Filipino friend who likes to wrap himself around the American flag. The Filipino guy was talking about his recent trip to Vietnam and like most Republicans, they like to talk about women and their encounters with them and they're all sexist in nature. He was talking about his "massage" he had in Vietnam. I don't know why but he kept talking about how the masseur kept asking if he was gay because apparently he wasn't getting aroused by her. And this guy was bragging about it. Odd because Republicans don't like any suggestion that they're gay but for some reason at the same time, they like hanging around guys in situations where it looks gay. This guy is no exception. This is where the Vietnamese wife comes in and she's bragging how she likes American men over European or Chinese men because "they pay more". She says European and Chinese men are cheap. "Pay more..." as in what? In what situation where an American will pay more...? Buying a can a Coke in a shop? No, she was talking about prostitution. Yes, I've suspected from hearing about her past living in Vietnam before coming to the US that she might've been a "prostitute" growing up to make money. I know it's not the same like a hooker in the US where it's only about sex and that's what they're being paid for. Over in especially in Southeast Asia, it's like renting a girlfriend to spend the day with which eventually leads to sex. The only difference between a hooker in the US and one in Southeast Asia is the American hooker makes more money and spends less time with their John. I've come across those YouTube videos of Western men living in Southeast Asia. Yeah and a "rich" American having a "girlfriend" in Southeast Asia means you're paying for all of your girlfriend's family's bills. European and Chinese men being cheap means less likely of being cheated out of their money.
This is pretty much analogous to trade with Southeast Asian countries. Even though they're dependent on trade with China, they like the countries where they can cheat them more out of their money.
This is pretty much analogous to trade with Southeast Asian countries. Even though they're dependent on trade with China, they like the countries where they can cheat them more out of their money.
So basically Americans do not have the proper bureaucracy to account for proper tariff. The emperor give the order, but the state has no capacity to carry out the order.