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Overbom

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I am not one who claims that Trump is a Russian agent (Krasnov). But if he was a Russian agent - what would he be doing differently?
Said all along that Trump is either a Russian agent or somehow compromised by Russia

Look up at the KGB unit responsible for turning bankrupt or desperate Western businessmen to Russian assets. It's a well documented process
 

Michael90

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I must have missed the part where Carney pleaded with Trump and asked to join the golden dome?

Trump is the only one who said Canada wanted to join. Do we take his word as gospel? If you do, then I've got a bridge to sell ya.
Come on dude, information is easy to access nowadays. How can you still be arguing about something that was openly said already?

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Canada already reaffirmed its commitment to cooperating with THE USA in defence(AKA coming under the US umbrella as always) and they were actually the first country to support the US GOLDEN DOME project and making it known they want to join. As I said, I understand Canadas choice actually. The country has little choice but to follow the US no matter how displeased or reluctant they might be. Much of the countrys entire economy and security relies heavily on the US. So Canada is one of the last country you will expect to go against the US. Same goes with Mexico actually.

Moreover, as I said before, their closeness to the US coupled with the US forward foreign policy of securing her immediate neighbourhood with political, and military allies means regional countries have to rely on the US. As Canada s chief of staff said I quote : "We’re absolutely focused on defending our country and the Arctic region together with our neighbors,” Carignan said on the sidelines of the IISS Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore. “We can’t change our geography.”

That's exactly what I said before. This is an area which China lacks in building security alliances in her neighbourhood. Which is understandable to Some extent, since the country has a non interference policy. It serves the country well for the moment since it avoids risks as well.. However, as tensions with the US rise each year, it will unfortunately become untenable at some point in future.
 
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MortyandRick

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Come on dude, information is easy to access nowadays. How can you still be arguing about something that was openly said already?

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Canada already reaffirmed its commitment to cooperating with THE USA in defence(AKA coming under the US umbrella as always) and they were actually the first country to support the US GOLDEN DOME project and making it known they want to join. As I said, I understand Canadas choice actually. The country has little choice but to follow the US no matter how displeased or reluctant they might be. Much of the countrys entire economy and security relies heavily on the US. So Canada is one of the last country you will expect to go against the US. Same goes with Mexico actually.

Moreover, as I said before, their closeness to the US coupled with the US forward foreign policy of securing her immediate neighbourhood with political, and military allies means regional countries have to rely on the US. As Canada s chief of staff said I quote : "We’re absolutely focused on defending our country and the Arctic region together with our neighbors,” Carignan said on the sidelines of the IISS Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore. “We can’t change our geography.”

That's exactly what I said before. This is an area which China lacks in building security alliances in her neighbourhood. Which is understandable to Some extent, since the country has a non interference policy. It serves the country well for the moment since it avoids risks as well.. However, as tensions with the US rise each year, it will unfortunately become untenable at some point in future.
Please quote my entire post.

One cannot undo decades of integration in a few short months.

But the trend is going the other way after decades of increasing integration. Public opinion had soured on the US in a large way.

Time will tell but now there's a lot more open discussion in Canada about diversifying at much as we can away from the US. Small steps.
 

iewgnem

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(Asean China ang Gcc just had a meeting, asean free trade 3.0 progressing too though.)

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Speaking at the Shangri-la Dialogue in Singapore, Hegseth characterised China as seeking to become a "hegemonic power" that "hopes to dominate and control too many parts" of Asia. China has clashed with several neighbours over competing territorial claims in the South China Sea.
China isn't building the world's biggest navy, global prompt strike or nuclear carriers to just be hegemon of Asia, lol
Americans should really save some of their outrage for when it's actually warranted.
 

AndrewS

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China isn't building the world's biggest navy, global prompt strike or nuclear carriers to just be hegemon of Asia, lol
Americans should really save some of their outrage for when it's actually warranted.

Consider the Chinese response to Golden Dome.

There are 4+ Chinese startups working on reusable launch tickets like SpaceX. My guess is that in 5 years time, we'll see Chinese reusable rockets with lower launch costs than SpaceX. Then combine this with Chinese advantages in areas such as military missile costs and development speed.

Then we can reasonably expect China to develop their own Golden Dome system, with space-based targeting of moving missiles and aircraft, along with thousands of in-orbit weapons. This would likely be at significantly lower cost.

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The US already has China's coastline surrounded with US bases, where US missiles and aircraft can already strike mainland China.

In comparison, China has no way to cross the Pacific Ocean and reach the Continental USA with conventional weapons.
But with a Chinese Golden Dome system with thousands of orbiting weapons, we can now expect ground targets in the Continental USA to be hit.

More broadly speaking, the US Navy and the hundreds of US military bases allow for military power projection all over the world.
Currently, China doesn't have this. But with a Chinese Golden Dome that covers the planet...

So from a strategic perspective, the weaponisation of space with Golden Dome will be a net negative for the US.

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Can you imagine the outrage when the US realises that China has responded with their own Golden Dome?
 
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iewgnem

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Consider the Chinese response to Golden Dome.

There are 4+ Chinese startups working on reusable launch tickets like SpaceX. My guess is that in 5 years time, we'll see Chinese reusable rockets with lower launch costs than SpaceX. Then combine this with Chinese advantages in areas such as military missile costs and development speed.

Then we can reasonably expect China to develop their own Golden Dome system, with space-based targeting of moving missiles and aircraft, along with thousands of in-orbit weapons. This would likely be at significantly lower cost.

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The US already has China's coastline surrounded with US bases, where US missiles and aircraft can already strike mainland China.

In comparison, China has no way to cross the Pacific Ocean and reach the Continental USA with conventional weapons.
But with a Chinese Golden Dome system with thousands of orbiting weapons, we can now expect ground targets in the Continental USA to be hit.

More broadly speaking, the US Navy and the hundreds of US military bases allow for military power projection all over the world.
Currently, China doesn't have this. But with a Chinese Golden Dome that covers the planet...

So from a strategic perspective, the weaponisation of space with Golden Dome will be a net negative for the US.

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Can you imagine the outrage when the US realises that China has responded with their own Golden Dome?
Golden Dome is such a cringe name for Star Wars 2
In practice its main effect will just be acting as a tool to defund large number of American defence programs without anything to show for itself. The number one rule of these fantasy programs is not to actually fund it.
Weaponization of space is something China has been preparing for along time, the F in China's FOB tests is optional after all. As far as China is concerened the more US spend on it the better, but there's no reason to change what China's already working on.

It's also not needed in a Pacific war, peacetime control of islands has little bearing on their control during war, US bases in western pacific in peacetime becomes Chinese bases in western pacific in war, the actual ability to project power across the Pacific rests in logistics and merchant marine, China actually has the logistics to sustain a war across the Pacific, US does not.
 

Wrought

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An interesting tidbit from an otherwise pro forma news piece.

Mr Hegseth insisted that President Trump had promised that “Communist China will not invade Taiwan on his watch.” Informed sources said he was referring to private comments by the president, omitting an important rider: that Mr Trump thinks China will take Taiwan after he has left office.

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