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FriedButter

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At this point I won’t even be surprised if they end up killing people with no spending power if they can’t contribute meaningful labor.

The Stadiums can be repurposed as a Gladiator Stadium. Poor people, criminals, migrants, etc. Like DHS says, turn it into a show with “rewards” where both sides “benefit.” Trump can appear and do the “Pollice verso” gesture.

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What the producer said about the idea:

We're going to put a face to all these people who are on this journey and want nothing more than to be a part of this country, and we're going to humanize them, and we're going to celebrate them

Yes, nothing more humanising than to have to compete in a game show for the chance to enter a country. What, are they going to ‘who wants to be a millionaire’ with US history or something.

Or are they going to do a US version of Takeshi’s castle, what the contestants have to run obstacles course while being shot at, going up slippery slopes with ranch sauce running down the slope, running a maze with 400 pounds land whale guards and finally in the finale, storm a White House replica with marines as guards.

Or how about running the course of American ninja warrior to prove you are physically fit to work in the fields or something.

Tho with things as they are it’s going to be less gladiator and more thunder dome.
 

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Tax bill clears the House in a victory for Republicans, advances to the Senate​


WASHINGTON — Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives came together early Thursday to pass President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful” tax bill out of the chamber on a narrow vote.

Every Democrat on the floor voted no, as did Republican Reps. Warren Davidson of Ohio and Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Rep. Andy Harris, R-Md., who chairs the conservative House Freedom Caucus, voted present. The final vote tally was 215-214.

The passage was a major victory for Republican leaders, who spent the past two months crafting the bill and the past two days making last-minute changes to it.

The more than 1,000 pages of legislation and 42 pages of amendments are a case study in how to win over both moderates and hard-line conservatives.

House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Keith Self, R-Texas, said he wishes that the bill had gone further on tax cuts, but that the caucus “did what we could.”

“I was the last vote [cast], and I wasn’t going to take the bill down,” he told NBC News.

Trump praised Speaker Mike Johnson and House GOP leadership after the bill passed and thanked “every Republican who voted YES on this Historic Bill!”

“Now, it’s time for our friends in the United States Senate to get to work, and send this Bill to my desk AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!” the president wrote Thursday morning on Truth Social. “There is no time to waste.”

Johnson aims to get the package to Trump’s desk by July 4. “Today proves that we can do that and we will do that,” the speaker said.

On Wall Street, however, investors were not as enthusiastic about the tax cut package as Republicans in Washington were.

Major indexes fell Wednesday, as analysts and corporate leaders worried that Trump’s expensive spending bill will lead to exploding federal deficits and weaker long-term fiscal health for the nation. The yield on the 30-year Treasury bond yield hit 5.09%.

Democrats, likewise, are vehemently opposed to the bill’s steep cuts to the social safety net in order to pay for some of the tax cuts Trump promised on the campaign trail last year.

An analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that if the bill were to become law, “in general, resources would decrease for households in the lowest decile (tenth) of the income distribution, whereas resources would increase for households in the highest decile.”

The package still faces a complicated path through the Senate, however.

The upper chamber will consider the legislation under a set of rules called budget reconciliation, which requires only a simple majority to pass instead of the typical 60 votes required to move bills through the Senate.

Nonetheless, several Republican senators have already said they will require significant changes to the bill before agreeing to vote for it.

The final version of the bill that passed Thursday contained scores of amendments, designed to give each of the competing factions within the House GOP conference a win.

For example, a timeline for imposing work requirements for Medicaid recipients was moved up by two years, to the end of 2026 — a victory for conservatives.

But the amendments also contained a fourfold increase in the cap on deductions that federal income tax filers can claim for state and local taxes they paid.

The maximum SALT deduction increases from its current level of $10,000 to $40,000, for taxpayers reporting less than $500,000 in income.

Rep. Mike Lawler on SALT increase: New Yorkers shouldn't be unfairly penalized with double taxation
Rep. Mike Lawler, R-N.Y., who was a firm holdout on the bill until it included the SALT cap increase, called the legislation “vital to really kick-start our economy and give folks certainty in the marketplace.”

“The fact is, we delivered on something, this is a big promise that I made to my district, that I would fight tooth and nail and I would never support a tax bill that didn’t adequately lift the cap on SALT, and that’s what we delivered here today,” he said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” after the vote.

Ahead of the vote, the House Rules Committee convened for 21 straight hours of debate and amendments in order to meet Johnson’s self-imposed Memorial Day deadline for passing the bill.

The broader bill seeks to deliver on Trump’s key campaign promises, and includes provisions to make permanent Trump’s 2017 tax cuts and eliminate taxes on tips.
 

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Tax cuts would add $3.8 trillion to debt: CBO​

President Trump’s tax policies would add roughly $3.8 trillion to the national debt, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

The tax provisions of the House GOP’s “one big, beautiful bill” to implement Trump’s domestic policy agenda would slash federal revenues by roughly 10 percent of the current national debt over the next 10 years, the CBO found.

House Republicans are racing to finalize and pass the sweeping policy bill by Memorial Day, with the goal of cementing Trump’s 2017 tax cut law and a wide range of other GOP priorities by July 4.

The bill would extend Trump’s 2017 cuts to personal income tax rates, and also establish new tax deductions for tips, Social Security benefits, overtime pay and interest on loans used to purchase U.S.-made automobiles — all of which Trump proposed during his 2024 presidential campaign.

The measure also restores business tax deductions for research and development expenses and lowers the income tax rate for “passthrough” businesses, which pass on their tax liability to their owners.

Extending Trump’s tax cuts and fulfilling his campaign trail promises are a top priority for Republican lawmakers, who are facing pressure to deliver economic relief to restive voters ahead of the 2026 midterm elections.

But the bill faces serious obstacles in the House due in part to a controversial provision meant to shield taxpayers in wealthier parts of the country.

A group of five House Republicans from high-tax suburban districts have vowed to vote against the bill unless the GOP increases the proposed state and local tax (SALT) deduction cap from the $30,000 in the current measure. Several of those Republicans, including Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.), are considered vulnerable to lose their seats in the 2026 midterms.

While the group has reported progress in talks with House leadership, GOP fiscal hawks have fiercely opposed making concessions that would have little impact in their deeply red districts.

And even if House Republicans can unite around a bill, their Senate GOP counterparts would prefer to break up the package into smaller pieces. Doing so could trigger a battle between Republicans in both chambers as Congress faces a summer deadline to raise the debt ceiling.
 

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The bill would eliminate subsidized federal student loans, meaning that the government would no longer cover the interest
The change could increase a student’s loan balance at graduation by about 15%, said higher education expert Mark Kantrowitz.
debt forgiveness after 20 or 25 years, the new GOP plan wouldn’t lead to debt cancellation for 30 years in some cases.
 
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