Well, i understnad from their point of view of how else could the Chinese could have withstood the American forces in Korea without using human waves. the Chinese werent using any weapons which could match the Amreicans. So i guess that the Coalition could only use the "human wave' as the only feasible asnwer to the stalemate at the 38th.
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Well, i understnad from their point of view of how else could the Chinese could have withstood the American forces in Korea without using human waves. the Chinese werent using any weapons which could match the Amreicans. So i guess that the Coalition could only use the "human wave' as the only feasible asnwer to the stalemate at the 38th.
The Chinese use of human wave tactics in Korea is taken out of context. They were able to turn their lack of mechanized equipment into an advantage by moving overland, infiltrating American lines and outflanking American positions. They used human waves tactically, sometimes, to take more critical positions.
Optionsss is right when he speaks of the effect that the USAF bombing campaign had on the Luftwaffe. The Luftwaffe was not able to defend Germany and deploy large amounts of planes to the Eastern Front simaltaneously. So when the US bombing campaign really began in late 1942 and 1943, lo and behold the fortunes of war on the Eastern Front changed. From that point on there were no major German victories. So you can see how the lack of an effective Luftwaffe was felt in the East. Also, without the Americans and British ending the war in 1945 Nazi Secret Weapons programs would have time to come to fruition. V-1s and V-2s would have been fired against Russia, not England. So I don't believe that the USSR could have defeated Nazi Germany alone.
Just to show how playing what if with history creates unintended or unoticed consequences, I'll tell you a story. In 1942, a Norweigan SOE contact bombed a ferry carrying several tons of German heavy water for their nuclear research program. This was, for Hitler, the last dissapointment he would suffer in the German nuclear program (the Allies had foiled heavy water creation efforts before). He essentially canceled research after that point. Without the allies in WWII, this would not have happened, and Germany would certainly have developed the atomic bomb before Russia.
Optionsss is right when he speaks of the effect that the USAF bombing campaign had on the Luftwaffe. The Luftwaffe was not able to defend Germany and deploy large amounts of planes to the Eastern Front simaltaneously. So when the US bombing campaign really began in late 1942 and 1943, lo and behold the fortunes of war on the Eastern Front changed. From that point on there were no major German victories. So you can see how the lack of an effective Luftwaffe was felt in the East. Also, without the Americans and British ending the war in 1945 Nazi Secret Weapons programs would have time to come to fruition. V-1s and V-2s would have been fired against Russia, not England. So I don't believe that the USSR could have defeated Nazi Germany alone.
Just to show how playing what if with history creates unintended or unoticed consequences, I'll tell you a story. In 1942, a Norweigan SOE contact bombed a ferry carrying several tons of German heavy water for their nuclear research program. This was, for Hitler, the last dissapointment he would suffer in the German nuclear program (the Allies had foiled heavy water creation efforts before). He essentially canceled research after that point. Without the allies in WWII, this would not have happened, and Germany would certainly have developed the atomic bomb before Russia.
The Chinese Human wave tactic is not just charging ahead, its mostly consisted by a large amount of more or less independent pluton based units in scattered V formation(this is very different from Red army tactics), often going behind of enemy line and strike from behind or try to outflank the enemy and strike from side.
But anyway, I agree with that it was the combined affort of all allies in WW2 to defeat the Nazi.
But anyway, I agree with that it was the combined affort of all allies in WW2 to defeat the Nazi.
China has excellent territorial defence network engraved throughout the land. With Siberian Far East to the North, Himalayan mountains to the south, and large swaths of desert to the East, China has a formidable natural defence mechanism already in place. United States however does have an upper hand regardless of terrain advantages.
China has limited deep blue naval capabilities. Russia, UK, and France each have a formidable fleet of naval carriers which give them tremendous air superiority advantage which you clearly discounted. China's naval outreach is extremely limited to coastal defence.
China has tremendous logistics problem in navigating poorly trained PLA forces in a real conflict with Russia, France, UK, or Germany. China should be discounted as a weak but emerging great power. China is not worthy being ranked second to United States. Japan has no offensive capabilities to speak of.
The Chinese lack adequate amphibious landing crafts to deploy the amount of troops needed for a normandy style invasion you idiot. China does not possess significant naval logistical support to carry out an invasion against Taiwan let alone a nation 8,000 miles away. Think of support lines, think of methods of transport, think of the decades of modernization China needs to achieve in order to catch up with China, Germany, Russia.
Who says you can't do that? Impossible is nothing. China did strip North Korea from US via strategic uses of human wave ambushes; but at heavy cost of lives.
China did not use any mechanized divisions to speak of, most if not all of the fighters in Korea were elite veteran foot-soldiers of the Sino-Japanese war and the battle-hardened veterans of the civil war.
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Poorly trained PLA soldiers you better cool it with that comment. PLA troops are in no means of poorly trained but are getting better and better with its elite forces further recieving special training. Logistic problems, what though they may not be as coordinate the can still achieve it no matter. And China being weak then why is US so afraid of this weak nation then? Emerging great power you mean emerging superpower.
PLA military are very secretive so you cannot assume but you can only expect what is behind China's military walls got to offer. Another reason why US is so concerned.
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