The War in the Ukraine
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Uhoh. So much for Ukraine's cunning plan to blow up the bridges on the river so the Russians cannot cross from the Northeast.
They trapped their own people at Azot plant, and now Russia comes in from Popasnaya south of the river. Brilliant.
The Russians sure took their own sweet time doing this but end result is as expected.
More info on the pointlessness of the MQ-1C's in an attack role and how the TB-2's that remain have fallen to the wayside save for targets of oportunity.
Still insist on getting western planes, to the point they seem delusional enough to think they can learn to control F-16's in a few days.
On the propaganda side of things, this is increasingly looking like a reddit war. All war-related subreddits are filled with dateless videos of the Ukranians trashing the Russians one way or another, getting thousands of likes, while the reality on the ground and the latest narrative by the own ukranian government doesn't seem to match the situation.
Still insist on getting western planes, to the point they seem delusional enough to think they can learn to control F-16's in a few days.
On the propaganda side of things, this is increasingly looking like a reddit war. All war-related subreddits are filled with dateless videos of the Ukranians trashing the Russians one way or another, getting thousands of likes, while the reality on the ground and the latest narrative by the own ukranian government doesn't seem to match the situation.
Something of a minicollapse is occuring today for the UA side.
Even supposed "professional" and "serious" subreddits like /r/CredibleDefense is just a 105 IQ midwit dumpsterfire of shitty propaganda. I only follow Russian telegram and Twitter accounts for war updates. Hard to find any rational oasis for discussion. This forum might be an outlier in that regard.
Small Ukrainian bunker/pillbox with double blast doors.
I find it interesting it they are using some sort of high vis ID tags on their backs, so going to guess these are Spetznaz of some sort?
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Things are moving quickly. It seems the Zolote pocket has already been collapsed.
At this rate, Lysychansk will fall in a week or two, then onwards and Westwards to the final Kramatorsk area. One very odd behavior of the Ukrainian military, never once did they try to get out and regroup West of the Dnipro River. Everyone stays in their cities and gets hammered and taken out.
The Ukrainian army has no chance operating in the open. The Russians have the air power and artillery advantage.
If Ukraine wanted to pull out, they would have had to make the withdrawal in small groups over an extended period of time and probably in the night. And regardless of where they pull out to, they will never be in as good a defensive position as in this place which they fortified for like 8 years. If they really want to make a last stand, the best places would be their largest cities, Kharkov, Dnipro, Kiev, and Odessa. But the end result, unless the Russians tire for some reason, is pretty predictable. By the time the Russians get to those places, they will have the experience of storming Mariupol, and possibly also Zaporizhzhia, and Nikolayev, so it won't go as well as the Ukrainian side will expect it to. After the experience with Mariupol against entrenched infantry, Russia rolled out the BMP-T, as I expected. And it seems to have done pretty well. Seems to have been used in the operation in Popasnaya to great effect.