The War in the Ukraine

Atomicfrog said:

Drone hunting is probably part of training now. Clay shooting and a couple of small drone toy could be used to train soldier with Saiga/Vepr-12 or other small arms. I cannot see training without that presently.

During day time, its probably easier to shot these overweighted drones than a duck with a simple hunting shotgun. Deafening from explosion is certainly not helping to hear them tho.

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World clay shooting champion doesn’t think shooting drones is particularly easy, even with Gucci guns, specialist ammo, and most importantly, being fresh as a daisy and knowing when and where the drones are going to be coming from.


Having your line troopers practicing to shooting FPVs is literally training for failure, as at that point the situation has deteriorated so much and the odds are so stacked against you, you basically already lost the fight if you were facing a similar sized opfor force. It’s effectively the equivalent of expecting your troopers to fend off enemy tac air with MANPADs. Can it happen? Sure, just don’t count on it.

Combat psychology has proven that soldiers can endure incredible hardship against terrible odds and cling on with great tenacity if they can at least fight back. But if you put them in a situation where all they can do is endure incoming attack with no real way to retaliate, then moral will crumble shockingly fast.

Just as with MANPADs, modern combat shotguns will be issued to troopers, but that’s very much a just-in-case, and better-than-nothing deployment aimed more at providing troops with physical comfort than actually expecting those weapons to be particularly effective in combat.

The true defence against FPVs will be with dedicated new systems rather than expecting individual troopers to pop them.