Extremely far fetched though really since much of the western countries are not even in the stage of early mobilisation
The War in the Ukraine
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And what would be the point in that? Large troop formations would easily get destroyed in any NATO/Russia conflict.
The whole Western MIC seems to be failing hard at production of conventional weapons against the Russian MIC. Against China the situation would be even worse. For strategic weapons the West has been even further behind Russia for at least two decades. Unfortunately some people in the West still have not got the memo.
It would take a decade or two to industrialize the West again to be able to properly fight an industrial war and there is no evidence of this happening. In fact the West is still deindustrializing as we speak.
Maybe the West should just learn to accept their proper place in the world today. But unfortunately it seems this won't happen without a fight.
The pocket in Kurtz is not growing anymore and is shrinking more than stabilizing, not sure what they can gain with committing more troops and material there ? They want to hit that Kursk Nuclear Power Plant so bad ? Don't know what else they can accomplish right now beside losing more assets.
That's a good question. I don't actually believe that the Kursk salient is going to be cut off. IMO, Ukrainians can fight Russians for Lyubimovka and Obukhovka for example, which would eliminate the threat of a pincer. However, like you, I am puzzled at what the point of all this is. Burning men and material for territory that ultimately has no strategic importance is... nonsensical.
Either the Ukrainians know something everybody else doesn't, or this is another 2023 counter-offensive. Blood and ash for nothing.
Russian Grad MLRS saturates an area where a Ukrainian D-30 howitzer is operating.
Trophies taken from Ugledar and the AFU 72nd Brigade. Trophies further cement proof of capture.
Kirpi captured by the 56th VDV in Glushkove and towed to the rear.
Deep State UA acknowledges Russian capture of Ugledar.
Lancets take out an M777 and a D-30 howitzer in the Kursk region.
I made a post that was incorrect with it's identification. The correction.
This was a Ukrainian ammo depot and temporary deployment points that was hit by an Iskander in Kherson.
This was the Iskander hit in Velikaya Aleksandrovka, also in the Kherson region. Allegedly up to 60 commanders of the AFU 37th Marine Brigade were killed. Their buses and cars were tracked by UAV.
Russian strike at Udachnoye Railway Station on a train bringing fuel to the AFU 72nd Brigade.
Due to the Russians knocking out the Ukrainian power grid, the AFU is increasing reliance on diesel powered locomotives. We can expect the Russians to target diesel fuel depots next.
Bradley destroyed in the Kursk region, an indication that the AFU 47th Brigade has been transferred to the area.
Trophies taken from Ugledar and the AFU 72nd Brigade. Trophies further cement proof of capture.
Kirpi captured by the 56th VDV in Glushkove and towed to the rear.
Deep State UA acknowledges Russian capture of Ugledar.
Lancets take out an M777 and a D-30 howitzer in the Kursk region.
I made a post that was incorrect with it's identification. The correction.
This was a Ukrainian ammo depot and temporary deployment points that was hit by an Iskander in Kherson.
This was the Iskander hit in Velikaya Aleksandrovka, also in the Kherson region. Allegedly up to 60 commanders of the AFU 37th Marine Brigade were killed. Their buses and cars were tracked by UAV.
Russian strike at Udachnoye Railway Station on a train bringing fuel to the AFU 72nd Brigade.
Due to the Russians knocking out the Ukrainian power grid, the AFU is increasing reliance on diesel powered locomotives. We can expect the Russians to target diesel fuel depots next.
Bradley destroyed in the Kursk region, an indication that the AFU 47th Brigade has been transferred to the area.
The publicized Fall of Ugledar is likely to be postdated by a day or two. It might have already happened right before the following post below was made.
As for the purported 2000 of the 72nd supposedly defending in Ugledar, I think this number is non-existent, fantasical, an imaginary creation of the media, or may have been once existed but mostly dead, wounded lying in cellars or surrendered. I suspect a deal might have been made to surrender and safely guarantee the lives of the survivors.
As for the purported 2000 of the 72nd supposedly defending in Ugledar, I think this number is non-existent, fantasical, an imaginary creation of the media, or may have been once existed but mostly dead, wounded lying in cellars or surrendered. I suspect a deal might have been made to surrender and safely guarantee the lives of the survivors.
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Only thing it can do is gather more bodies, but they are not lacking in manpower. Once their weapon stockpile depletes, extra manpower cannot be used for aggression. Better to deplete those in Ukraine than trying same under western air superiority.
They are playing into Russian hands since the Russians can use draftees inside Russia whichever way they want. So they will never take significant resources from other parts of the front.
If the Ukrainians have the poor idea of bombing the Kursk nuclear power plant, then the Russians will bomb the Ukrainian nuclear power plants, and crater their energy grid. The nuclear power plants now provide most electric power in Ukraine after the thermal power stations were taken out. They will not just have rolling blackouts. They will be lucky to have power at all.
Apparently Russia dropped a 9ton thermobaric bomb on Volchansk. The shockwave alone...