The War in the Ukraine

gelgoog

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Pac3 and Pac2 GEM are active seekers/fire and forget. Ukraine received Pac 2GEM
We have photos of PAC-3 wreckage from this strike. So Ukraine is definitively using the PAC-3.

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baykalov

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There is currently an Air Raid Alert for the Regions of Southern and Central Ukraine with Initial Reports of 3M54-1 “Kalibr” Cruise Missiles being launched from Russian Naval Ships in the Black Sea. Missiles Strikes have been reported in Nikolaiv Region with fires said to have broken out at the Target Locations. The mayor of Nikolaev Vitalyi Kim reported a fire after the explosions and urged not to publish photos and videos.




 
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sheogorath

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Maybe as there seems to be Kh-55 "decoy" got intercepted or crashed or maybe jamming. regarding Kinzhal tho, given the design lineage from Iskander/Tender. I'm kinda sure it also have penetration aids

Russia is claiming that that the Ukranians are claiming 3 times the amount of missiles they actually fired, pretending this is true and assuming that Kinzhal has the same amount of penetration aids as Izkander(6 per missile if I recall correctly) what are the chances they fired 2 or 3 Kinzhal and everything claimed as hit were the decoys?

2 Kinzhals could put out 12 decoys which along with wathever drone and other decoys launched by Russia might match Ukraine's 19 "missiles" tally.

Of course, this is just a lot of assumptions particularly regarding the characteristics of Kinzhal and how closely related it might be to Izkander.

Seems some Ukranian official is threatening to cut people's finger off if they take pictures of air defence systems at work
 
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Zichan

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Are patriot missiles fire and forget or do they require continuous guidance from the radar system?

If so no wonder it was taken out.
PAC-2 missiles are guided via TVM. The missiles have passive receivers and the target may not be aware that it’s been fired at until it’s too late.
 

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LawLeadsToPeace

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@ MOD

Oh so this post is not sarcastic but mine was? It was practically the same post.

@Deino

Can you talk to this mod. I responded to this post with "and the moskva intercepted the neptunes with its hull, but he/she deletes mine and allows his to stay. Smells of bias moderating.
Sure what is up? I was the one who deleted /edited several posts already; all of which included dehumanization, political sarcasm, and sarcastic attacks. That included yours. DM me and the other mods directly instead of clogging the thread. AND actually report any posts that violate the rules instead of pouring gasoline into the fire.
 
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gelgoog

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The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation launched a combined attack with long-range precision-guided air- and sea-based weapons against the AFU units, as well as depots of ammunition, weapons and military equipment supplied by Western countries.
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U.S.-manufactured Patriot surface-to-air missile system has been struck by Kinzhal hypersonic glide vehicle in Kiev.


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A US-made Patriot air defense system was likely damaged, but not destroyed, as the result of a Russian missile barrage in and around Kyiv early Tuesday morning local time, a US official tells CNN.

The US is still assessing to what degree the system was damaged, the official said. That will determine whether the system needs to be pulled back entirely or simply repaired on the spot by Ukrainians forces.
 
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