The War in the Ukraine

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Stealthflanker

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HighGround said:
This was interesting to read, but any figures should really be in rubles. The people making these missiles get paid in rubles and don't renegotiate their salary or material costs every time there's a slight swing in foreign exchange rate markets.
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It is your turn to provide the estimates.

As i mentioned it's using E.Fleeman's methods which based on US missile industry. The Russians or Soviet in other hand have their own way. If you wish it in Russian Rubles.. then the method should also change accordingly.
 
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abc123 said:
Come on, be serious. With all the chaos of Russian mobilisation, you are telling me that they have planned that long time ago? Well, if they PLANNED that, then: a) Putin is indeed a NATO asset and b) next time it's better not to plan anything- it can't be any worse.
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that is public mobilization which is consider very little when you look at size of mobilization in society that hast done it generation.
They planned it as otherwise Ka-52M would not be in zone of operation since September 2022 and now first delivery of new choppers.
Putin is not Nato asset. He is playing with Gold since he came to power and is well respected in Middleast.
Ukranians are not kids they know where to look for humanitarian aid.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617602110597603329
 
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sheogorath

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Victoria Nuland says the Abrams won't be ready in time for the Ukranian spring offensive

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618653524405137408

The Tornado S guided round seems to make quite a gnarly sound

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618651906586607617

A few captured BTR-70's. They probably been out of service for a while now, cannibalized for spare parts seeings as they lack guns
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618603291130363907

More on the 3 M777 knocked out around Kreminna today
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1618601945262088198
 
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Hi
Russians are not fighting the way what they did back in Afghanistan in 1979
millions of people been killed and pushed across the border for migration, why
im writing all this here is they haven’t start bombing the way they did in Afghanistan
now I’m not saying Ukrainian are not loosing in their life in this conflict but I’m petty
much sure even USA doesn’t want to poke the bear into the eye with too much intensity
otherwise I think only way to cope with it for Russians will be start uninterrupted bombing
with more human & infrastructure casualties at the end if Russian retreat at this or later
moments without getting anything out of it they are dead meat against NATO & USA as
a whole
so at the end even USA knows this and to some extent they will supply Ukraine whatever they
can within the limits of not poking the bear too much that’s what USA did during Afghan war
thank you
 
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plawolf said:
Western arms supply to Ukraine are handicapped by the fact there is no real plan or coordination beyond trying to get as much over as possible. But even then many, if not post donors seems to be treating this as a cash grab rather than being serious about trying to support Ukraine by sending junkyard grade equipment while claiming brand new prices from the various western arms support funds or getting brand new replacements for them.

Thus beyond costing the Russians more lives, these whip-arounds are unlikely to have major decisive impacts.

Ukraine seems desperate to find some actual wunderwaffe superweapon that will single-handedly win them the war, because they are losing on the battlefield. The map has not moved much, but they have been criminally wasteful of their soldiers’ lives and that reality seems to be finally catching up to them.

The only weapons that might have a chance of fundamentally changing the course of the war are strategic level ones of cruise missiles with range to hit key strategic targets deep within Russia. Things like munitions and tank factories. Because without that kind of deep disruption to Russian MIC, the Russians will just do what they have always done in the past - ramp up production and eventually overcome enemies with overwhelming firepower and numerical weight.

I think that’s probably where we are headed in the summer and autumn once the latest round to tanks and jets inevitably fail to move the needle much.
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According to Gen. Wesley Clark unless Ukraine receives around 300 tanks along with deep penetration strikes capable weaponry like ATACMS etc.. the tanks that Ukrainians are set to receive which are reported to be in the 100s are simply insufficient to achieve the desired outcome Ukraine is wishing to achieve.


But if these tanks can somehow manage to again embarrass Russian forces, Putin and his general officers better come up with a credible explanation otherwise NATO will simply call his blustery as nothing more than a dog who's bark is stronger than his bite and will call his bluff.
 
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Ukraine orders 105 reconnaissance drones from German manufacturer

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence has ordered 105 Vector airborne reconnaissance drones from the German company Quantum-Systems GmbH. The costs for the order will be covered by the German government within the framework of German support for Ukraine. This is stated in a statement by Quantum-Systems.

The order is the second order for this drone by Ukraine, the company said. The first order, for 33 units, was placed in August last year. It goes on to say that the Vector drone has been used extensively and intensively in the Ukrainian war zone and has "proven extremely useful" in the area of military reconnaissance and surveillance.

The company also states that the experiences reported back by users from Ukraine have already been incorporated into the further development of the Vector drone. With the help of the latest software update, the drone now also works in scenarios with disturbed GPS data.

In addition to supplying the systems, Quantum-Systems also announced that it would provide training and technical support on site in Ukraine. A facility yet to be opened will serve both as a training centre for the Vector drone and as a local hub for the procurement of spare parts and repair services.

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tabu said:
Ukraine orders 105 reconnaissance drones from German manufacturer

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence has ordered 105 Vector airborne reconnaissance drones from the German company Quantum-Systems GmbH. The costs for the order will be covered by the German government within the framework of German support for Ukraine. This is stated in a statement by Quantum-Systems.

The order is the second order for this drone by Ukraine, the company said. The first order, for 33 units, was placed in August last year. It goes on to say that the Vector drone has been used extensively and intensively in the Ukrainian war zone and has "proven extremely useful" in the area of military reconnaissance and surveillance.

The company also states that the experiences reported back by users from Ukraine have already been incorporated into the further development of the Vector drone. With the help of the latest software update, the drone now also works in scenarios with disturbed GPS data.

In addition to supplying the systems, Quantum-Systems also announced that it would provide training and technical support on site in Ukraine. A facility yet to be opened will serve both as a training centre for the Vector drone and as a local hub for the procurement of spare parts and repair services.

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The diversity of systems used on the Ukrainian side is incredible and troubling at the same time. I give them credit on their adaptability but it's probably hugely inefficient.
 
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Lancets working overtime as one strikes yet another Krab. The drone appears to have struck the hull, damaging but not destroying the SPG outright with the drone remains on the ground. However the smoke on the SPG gradually intensifies pointing that it has internal fire.

 
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tabu

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Atomicfrog said:
The diversity of systems used on the Ukrainian side is incredible and troubling at the same time. I give them credit on their adaptability but it's probably hugely inefficient.
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Ukraine asked for weapons and the West gave what it could spare. This is why such logistical nonsense was created. Ukraine is a kind of testing ground for weapons. War in the 21st century is a long time coming and both sides are using more or less obsolete equipment. But time passes and the old equipment runs out. Germany, on the other hand, felt that the Leopard 2 A4 is not quite suitable for this war and sent the 2A6 version. The avtars are gradually increasing in size.
 
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