Ukraine shoots down KH101 with FN-6 MANPAD.
The War in the Ukraine
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Ukraine shoots down KH101 with FN-6 MANPAD.
Footage of Russian 300mm Tornado-S MLRS rocket strikes on temporary deployment sites of Ukrainian units, one of which is located on the northern outskirts of Pokrovsk. The strike used precision-guided rockets equipped with a GLONASS satellite-guided system.
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Heavily blurred video shows the launch and hit.
Probably wants to engage via gun to save money.
The more complete story. Ukrainian special forces tried to infiltrate Pokrovsk in an attempt to widen the gap to allow their surrounded forces to retreat. They set up a temporary post, not very aware that Russian drones have been following them and while they were inside the building, a rocket from a Tornado-S hammered into it.
I find this interesting.
ATACMS was fired into Russian territory and S-400s and Pantsyrs shot them all down with wreckage to show. Then the Russians quickly found their launchers (0.25 of the video) and hit them with Iskanders. That's some quick response. IMO, the Russian radars tracked the ATACMS to their launch point, sent a UAV to confirm the targets, and quickly fired the Iskanders.
Previous to that, Iskanders struck two Neptun and a HIMARS system at the Dnipropetrovosk region.
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The supposed deal being worked out between Russia and the US is literally Minsk 3.0.
-Russia freezes Kherson, Zaporizhzhia.
-Gives Ukraine $100 billion dollars
-Gives up control of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to the IAEA.
-Demilitarized zone on defecto Russia controlled territory.
-Russia freezes Kherson, Zaporizhzhia.
-Gives Ukraine $100 billion dollars
-Gives up control of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to the IAEA.
-Demilitarized zone on defecto Russia controlled territory.
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I wouldn't accept that deal at first, russia is winning and can get much more. but. it's not a bad deal for russia. and i want this war to stop.
Some controversial points.
— Part of the territories (now controlled by ukraine?) becomes a demilitarized buffer zone under de facto Russian control.
— $100 billion of frozen Russian assets – for Ukraine's recovery; the US receives 50% of the income.- For Ukraine's territories de facto russian? Trump wants 50 billion lol
— Other frozen Russian assets will go to joint US-Russian projects. Trump wants even more money.
Winners:
Russia:
Territorial gains without fighting.
Free energry from Zaporizhzhia NPP. ok?
Russia gets part of the frozen money that in normal conditions it would never get back.
Sanctions lifting which is good for russia.
Return to G8 is meh but ok.
Long-term economic cooperation between the US and Russia. ok?
Trump:
USA gets 50+ billion dollars.
USA gets lots of money from investments returns.
9th? war stopped. Trump the pacificator.
Losers:
Europe:
100 billion to ukraine with no returns.
No position in the accords, looks very weak (it's weak).
Ukraine.
Loses territories.
It's bassically a surrender.
Its economy/population/future/moral is so f'ed that we don't know what's going to happen.
There are more points to it that also hits Ukraine hard such as the limitation of the AFU size, de facto recognition of Crimea as Russian territory and etc. All of these points didn’t include the European and Ukrainian delegations, and the pro-Ukraine side is angry about it. The US is ultimately going for a “everybody takes a loss“ approach while robbing both sides under the guise of a peace deal.