The sinking of South Korean Corvette Cheonan

xywdx

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Why would he be using a mobile phone?
Sorry I'm not familiar with the procedures of SK, but this seems a little strange.
Would someone care to give me a brief overview or a link I can read up on?
 

Pointblank

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Since the South Korean minister mentioned that torpedoes are a possibility but didn't state the source of the attack, is it safe for us to assume that a South Korean torpedo is responsible for the incident? Perhaps the South Koreans thought that they were under attack and a torpedo malfunctioned and sunk Chenoan? :confused:

The South Koreans don't use anti-ship torpedoes on their surface ships, and the Mark 46 doesn't have the capability to severely hole a ship.
 

jantxv

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A South Korean fishing boat that was participating in the recovery operation has sunk and nine people are missing. This story is getting very strange and apparently more dangerous. :confused:

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Fishing boat missing after searching for sailors from sunken ship
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April 03, 2010


A fishing boat has vanished and is feared to have sunk after searching for sailors missing from last week's naval disaster, maritime police said Saturday.

Police said they lost contact with the 99-ton boat, carrying nine people aboard, after receiving a distress signal at around 8:30 p.m. Friday in the area off the western sea border with North Korea, where the patrol ship Cheonan ship sank on March 26.

The fishing boat was among 10 vessels mobilized to find the Cheonan's 46 missing sailors. The other 58 crew members were rescued.

The maritime police and navy said that they have sent 16 patrol ships and other vessels, three helicopters and one aircraft to the scene for search and rescue operations.

The police said they were also chasing a Cambodian-registered 1,472-ton vessel sailing nearby to determine whether the two vessels had collided. They cite oil floating in waters near the scene.

The nine missing are skipper Kim Jae-hoo, 48, chief engineer Park Yon-joo, 49, Lee Yong-sang, 46, Ahn Sang-chol, 41, Kim Jong-pyong, 55, Chung Bong-jo, 49, Huh Suk-hee, 33, Yusuf Haaefa, 35, and Cambang Nurcahyo, 36. [Yonhap]
 
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Semi-Lobster

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Everytime I hear something new about this naval disaster things gets stranger and stranger, I just can't imagine what can happen next. One thing I am pleased to see is that the Korean media has been very active on the story, the only way to get to the truth of what happened here is poking and prodding since it seems we won't be hearing 'the truth' from the South Korean government anytime soon.
 

Finn McCool

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Report: NKorean special train arrives in China

By KWANG-TAE KIM, Associated Press Writer – 43 mins ago
SEOUL, South Korea – A special train from North Korea arrived in a Chinese border city early Saturday amid speculation of a visit to the country by Kim Jong Il, a news report said, though the reclusive leader's whereabouts remained unclear.
It was not confirmed whether Kim was aboard though he appeared to be, Yonhap news agency reported, citing an unidentified government source. The train that arrived in Dandong (1850 GMT) also could be an advance train preceding a trip by Kim, the South Korean source also was quoted as saying.
The National Intelligence Service, South Korea's main spy agency, said it was checking the report. An official in the office of President Lee Myung-bak said South Korea is closely monitoring the situation, though it has not obtained specific information. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the issue's sensitivity.
Chinese officials reached by The Associated Press on Saturday morning at the border in Dandong, the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing and the North Korean embassy in Beijing either said they didn't have information or would not comment.
Speculation by media, analysts and South Korea's government of a trip to China by Kim has increased in recent days. South Korea's presidential office told reporters Wednesday there was a high possibility a visit was in the works. The reclusive Kim rarely travels abroad and only under tight security. He last visited China in January 2006.
A possible trip to China, which has been a key ally of North Korea, comes as the United States and regional powers are pressing North Korea to rejoin stalled negotiations aimed at ending its nuclear weapons programs.
Yonhap said later in a separate report that Kim did not appear to have left for China, citing a North Korean radio report that he attended an art performance. The radio report Saturday did not mention the time and location of the performance.
The North's official Korean Central News Agency also reported Saturday that Kim attended the performance without giving the time and location.
South Korea's JoongAng Ilbo newspaper also reported on its Web site that the train which arrived in Dandong was confirmed as a cargo train and that Kim's special train appeared to be in North Korea as of 8 a.m. local time there (2300 GMT). The newspaper cited an unidentified Chinese source.
South Korean media reported earlier this week that several North Korean and Chinese officials were seen checking a rail bridge in Dandong.
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Very interesting. Perhaps Kim stepped in a bigger pile of do-do than he thought? If he is indeed on the train. I really just wish China would back a coup against him and let NK go "capitalist with Korean Characteristics".
 

siegecrossbow

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I really don't think that a coup against Kim Jon Il is any good at this stage. The man is ill and I don't think his son is competent enough to succeed him. Might as well as let history take its course.
 

AssassinsMace

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Does that ship have sonar? Close to North Korean waters and if that ship had sonar... they didn't detect a torpedo?

I can't say for sure, but it seems like there is a military cover-up. Why not mention the captain's mobile phone communication? It seems like a critical bit of information. I don't think a captain would just lie about that, would he?

It seems like the captain was reporting an attack.

If you've just had an critical explosion on board, I'd think it would be natural to think at first it was an attack. I wouldn't put it past the media to outright lie.
 

rhino123

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Just watch the news today, it is suspected that Kim Jon Il is in China now (most probably secretly), I am wondering if this would actually spin into some conspiracy theory whereby China is to be accused of having involvement in the 'attack'.
 

Pointblank

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Does that ship have sonar? Close to North Korean waters and if that ship had sonar... they didn't detect a torpedo

The first four of the class are fitted with Exocet. The ASuW type consists of 4 ships (756-759), which have 2 Exocet SSM, 1 OTO Melara 76mm gun, 2 Emerson 30mm AA guns but no ASW capability including sonar and torpedo.

The ASW type consist of 20 ships (761-785), which have 2 OTO Melara 76mm guns, 2 Breda 40mm guns, Signaal PHS-32 hull mounted sonar, 6 Mk46 torpedoes, 12 depth charges but no SSM.

The last 2 ships, ROKS Sinsung (PCC-783) and ROKS Kongju (PCC-785), have improved electronic equipments for reinforced AAW capability.
 

SampanViking

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Just watch the news today, it is suspected that Kim Jon Il is in China now (most probably secretly), I am wondering if this would actually spin into some conspiracy theory whereby China is to be accused of having involvement in the 'attack'.

A visit by Kim to the PRC has been widely anticipated as a part of the six nation talks, with a lot of speculation last week that he would have gone before the end of last month. I would not necessarily link the two events, although I would hardly be surprised if it was discussed.
 
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