The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft


Deino

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I just got a request from a friend ... maybe anyone can help him:

I've got a small thing I'm hoping you can help me with. I've done some
artwork for decals based on the attached photo. I'm assuming you have
contributors who speak Chinese, and if so could you run this by one. I'd
like to have someone 'proofread' it, as the photo isn't the best
quality. I did look up some posters celebrating "Long live Chairman
Mao", and I think I've got the characters right, but I'd like to make sure.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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gelgoog

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Your friend did a good job replicating the characters from the photograph. The only sort of problem I see is that the 岁 character's bottom stroke is a little off. However, this is not a problem since the same stroke is present in the original photo.
It might be an issue of Simplified vs Traditional Chinese.
 

siegecrossbow

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It might be an issue of Simplified vs Traditional Chinese.
This is what the traditional character for 岁 looks like: 歲.

Besides, simplified Chinese was common in the Mainland during the 1960s, around the time the Mig-21 was introduced to China.
 

DGBJCLAU

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just found here via
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... p. 43 :)

View attachment 47248
Somehow link is 404ed. But I found this is the Brigadization of the PLA Air Force report I've previously downloaded (and it's still downloadable now, so I guess the url was changed).

This open-source work strikes me as both venerable and unsatisfactory. Apart from the sketchy numbers (for example the ridiculous J-10B number, the missing Su-27UBK number which should be easy to compile, among other things), it even has a few dozen grammatical and spelling mistakes... The J-7 numbers are probably far from accurate either, even if we apply a Feb. 2018 cap for available information.

The author is also on SNS (ex. Quora) and he seems to know his stuff, so I'm kind of surprised but in the meantime not very - because he's a strategic instead of tactical/air force guy. He did say somewhere that he was merely in charge of overseeing the work which came from a team though.

I wonder if anyone else here on SDF has anything to say about this work. Or maybe this question should be raised in some other thread?
 

Deino

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Somehow link is 404ed. But I found this is the Brigadization of the PLA Air Force report I've previously downloaded (and it's still downloadable now, so I guess the url was changed).

This open-source work strikes me as both venerable and unsatisfactory. Apart from the sketchy numbers (for example the ridiculous J-10B number, the missing Su-27UBK number which should be easy to compile, among other things), it even has a few dozen grammatical and spelling mistakes... The J-7 numbers are probably far from accurate either, even if we apply a Feb. 2018 cap for available information.

The author is also on SNS (ex. Quora) and he seems to know his stuff, so I'm kind of surprised but in the meantime not very - because he's a strategic instead of tactical/air force guy. He did say somewhere that he was merely in charge of overseeing the work which came from a team though.

I wonder if anyone else here on SDF has anything to say about this work. Or maybe this question should be raised in some other thread?
Indeed, it is still available here:

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I must admit I know Sid quite well from a number of discussions and we are in regular exchange of our considerations. So even I do not agree on any of his conclusion - exactly the ones you mentioned - I admire his knowledge and understanding, his ability to pit pieces together I most often forgot ...

Also, we usually publish in different ways and if you like to compare my numbers and thoughts on this topic, I might recommend this:

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Best,
Deino
 

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