The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Maikeru

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The fact that the PAF achieved a near full house of kills against almost every frontline fighter aircraft type within the IAF strongly suggests that it was more a case of how well the PAF and Chinese tactics and weapons performance combined with how backwards IAF tactics were, as opposed to how bad the Rafale was. It does prove that the Rafale isn’t magic as French marketing would have you believe. But then, I think even the F22 and J20 would have struggled in IAF hands in those same circumstances.
The mighty Tejas was able to avoid being hit due to its 7th gen stealth and supermaneuvrability.
 

mack8

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Two graphics showing the possible downing of the Rafale.

Two images can explain the entire combat process. In the airstrike, the J-10 was responsible for launching the PL-15 missile, while the early warning aircraft guided it remotely (without using a fire control radar, making it undetectable for the Rafale). When the Rafale detected the missile, it probably had only 10 seconds to react. Furthermore, the PL-15 has terminal acceleration.

Chinese map of the situation during the air battle between India and Pakistan on May 7
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That is a fantastic map, have i counted right that it shows every of the 42 PAF and 72 IAF fighters involved (though i can't see any AWACS)? Any chance of an english version?
 

tphuang

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Yes, but you don’t have enough resolution to make precise targeting. The fighter radar still needs to do a lot of heavy lifting.
right, not weapon grade tracking. It does however allow your fighter to keep radar off until missile gets closer to the target aircraft. And you can narrow beam on the target. All of which reduces emissions detected by other enemy aircraft.

Although, one thought I had is that with AESA seeker on PL-15, it might be able to lock on to target aircraft (at least one that's not VLO) with even AWACS resolution. Depends on scenario I think.
 
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