Superhornet (f/a18e/f) & Growler (ea-18g) Thread

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The US & Australia have SHs. Finnland has F/A-18C (legacy) Hornets I think. I'm not aware of them procuring, or having plans to procure, Super Hornets. I think a replacement decision for those will be due in the Finnish AF in a few years time. A SH is a likely contender and potential choice. But my understanding so far is that the Gripen E is the frontrunner at this time. Well, informally, since there's no decision being made right now.
 
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Scratch said:
The US & Australia have SHs. Finnland has F/A-18C (legacy) Hornets I think. I'm not aware of them procuring, or having plans to procure, Super Hornets. I think a replacement decision for those will be due in the Finnish AF in a few years time. A SH is a likely contender and potential choice. But my understanding so far is that the Gripen E is the frontrunner at this time.
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Scratch, you are exactly right.

There will be no Super Hornets for Finland. They are evaluating either the Gripen or the F-35 to replace their Hornets.

Right now, the only super Hornet customers are the US and Australia...who both also own the EA-18G Growler, which is derived from the F/A-18F.
 
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Super Hornet Advanced cockpit pictures. No DAS but front has no HUD so I assume a similar helmet display to F-35. I also assume they would want to incorporate a similar level of data/command networking since that would be even more valuable for a non stealth platform.

I'm old enough to remember the original "Big Picture" concept pioneered by McDonnel Douglas as a feature for advanced fighters beyond the F-15. It took a lot longer to get here than I had thought. They still don't even have the fancy 3D tunnels in space and radar keep-out zones shown in those old concept paintings. At least they haven't released any public photos showing such things.

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Scratch

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Is the middle picture (rear) a rendering from a different design? I wouldn't understand why the rear seater has a HUD while the driver doesn't.
Yet in the last pic of the sim, there's no HUD at all. Introducing all that helmet based, sensor fusing magic seems so complex, I imagine it could make the "ASH" so expensive there might be no more economical incentive to go with it over F-35 right away.
 
Broccoli

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Scratch said:
The US & Australia have SHs. Finnland has F/A-18C (legacy) Hornets I think. I'm not aware of them procuring, or having plans to procure, Super Hornets. I think a replacement decision for those will be due in the Finnish AF in a few years time. A SH is a likely contender and potential choice. But my understanding so far is that the Gripen E is the frontrunner at this time. Well, informally, since there's no decision being made right now.
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Finnish air force want's the F-35A or the F-35C.

Even Finnish-Swedish politicians who always want more cooperation with Sweden thinks that F-35 would be a good fighter. Luckily enough Finland will purchase new fighters after 2020 so most F-35 problems should been solved by then... and most of it's competitors like Rafale are already 30 year old designs by then!

As reported in the Helsinki Times , Carl Haglund said Finland should not put Nordic defence co-operation ahead of performance when choosing between the Swedish-built Gripen E and the US-built F-35, providing there is little difference in cost between the two types.

"Although I advocate co-operation with Sweden, we should not acquire Swedish [Gripen E] fighters if we could acquire American F-35 stealth fighters for roughly the same price. Performance must take precedence in the investment," he is quoted as saying.
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