Exactly,, those who continue to proclaim that a fully loaded Su-33 or J-15 will fly away off the ramp really don't understand the process or the physics.Nothing leaves a ski jump much faster than about 80 knots; that's the whole point of the ramp, to get you airborne before you've reached flying speed. If you were to take off from the ramp like a car or motorbike, you'd fly for a while then drop back to earth/sea once your momentum ran out. Jet Aircraft are still accelerating when they leave the ramp, and they reach fully wing-borne flying speed a few hundred feet ahead of the ship and about 200ft above sea level. Hitting the ramp at higher entry speeds can lead to nosewheel oleo collapse.View attachment 47299 When people talk about integrating a ski jump with an EMALS they're just showing they don't understand how either system works. If you can get an aircraft to flying speed by the time it leaves the deck, as a catapult does, then you simply have no need for a ski jump. The ramp is the cheap and easy way to do it, the penalty for non-vectoring thrust aircraft like the SU-33/J-15 is decreased payload/fuel load, limiting the potential usefulness of the aircraft.