Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation


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Looks like China and Vietnam had a good meeting this week. Aside from trade blossoming, an entire paragraph here of code of conduct in SCS. Let's hope they can agree to something that will make every happy.
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As important as it is to work together with SCO countries, ASEAN countries are more important to China. The other 2 pillars of global south are Africa and Latin America. SCO isn't the only place China is trying to shore up relationships.
Vietnam's economy is in big trouble, so they called China. China got upset at Vietnam's island-building in the SCS and scolded Vietnam. This is a summary of the call.
 

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Whatever this means. I think they need to try moving a little quicker given the current geopolitical environment. At this point, I think they are really interested in expanding yuan use in cross-border trade, investment. They are less willing to open up domestic financial market for fear of some type of currency/bank run.

Looks like after meeting with Xi, Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan both have decided to stand up against Russia a little more and have banned usage of MIR card. Maybe the Russians can still use Unionpay there.

A good article here talking about some of the things we discussed here. I think there are probably some CIPS transactions that are not caught by SWIFT. This is based on how much payment ASEAN/China trade payment cleared by CIPS (announced recently) vs how much RMB settlement have been tracked by SWIFT.
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a major win for GDI this week

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Major items in GDI
seven measures to implement the 2030 Agenda:

— First, releasing the first list of projects in the GDI project pool, which includes 50 practical cooperation projects in poverty reduction, food security, industrialization and other fields, as well as 1,000 new capacity building programs. China will work with all parties for the  delivery of these projects. Parties are welcome to put forth new proposals based on their own needs to constantly expand the pool.

— Second, advancing the Food Production Enhancement Action. The Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences and the International Research Center of Big Data for Sustainable Development will respectively sign agreements with the FAO on cooperation in digital and innovative agricultural financing, animal and plant disease prevention and control, and sustainable soil and water resource management.

— Third, moving forward the Global Clean Energy Cooperation Partnership and deepening practical cooperation with the International Renewable Energy Agency and other countries to advance a transition to clean energy and realize sustainable energy security.

— Fourth, bolstering cooperation on Smart Customs, Smart Borders and Smart Connectivity, and working with international organizations like the World Customs Organization and other countries to develop smart customs networks and boost supply chain connectivity in the digital era.

— Fifth, launching the World Digital Education Alliance to intensify international cooperation on digital education, empower education development with digitization, and make education resources more affordable and accessible.

— Sixth, jointly launching the Bamboo as a Substitute for Plastics Global Action Plan with the International Bamboo and Rattan Organization to effectively treat plastic pollution and leave a clean and beautiful planet for future generations.

— Seventh, announcing that the data from the satellite “SDGSAT-1” China launched last November is open to the world, to support sustainable development research and decision-making in different countries.

China will donate to the UN six sustainable development data sets including on the world’s arable land and forest coverage. This will provide data support for realizing the SDGs on food security and terrestrial ecosystem protection.
 

tphuang

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The other part where the Global South/SCO is important to China is rare earth. China has the largest proven RE deposit in the world, but is jut a fraction of the overall world production. Russia, Vietnam and Brazil also have large production.

Although many countries can produce rare earths, China is where the all the rare earth metals go to get processed. Western countries have long complained about the need to rely on Chinese processing of rare earth metals. That includes the ones mined in Australia.

This was posted in the ASEAN economy thread. It's quite interesting and makes a lot of sense for Chinese firms to be doing. It is very similar to the mining they already do in Northern part of Myanmar.
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It's unclear how much rare earth deposits are in these 2 countries, since there are no public figures, but sounds like Chinese companies will be actively working with local firms to mine and then doing advanced processing back in China. This ensures that Chinese rare processing industry remains in control of the this process and provide advantage to Chinese producers of magnets and over rare earths products.

It seems China has made similar in road into Africa where the metals are sent to China for processing
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Aside from this, Mongolia is said to have a large rare earth reserve also. This makes sense since Inner Mongolia have large RE reserves
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It's probably important for Chinese firms to work with Mongolian miners to make things as easy for them as possible so that the processing will continue to be done in China.

Finally, Russia, Vietnam and Brazil all have their own large deposits (although not as large as China). In each case, the country in question have not really ramped up their production of rare earth. They do not have a supply chain in place. As such, Chinese firms will need to work with them to ensure that processing is not being done by western companies. These countries may very well require processing to be done within their border. That I think is fine as long as Chinese firms are able to trade processing technology for continued supply.

What China wants is that these metals, which are important to renewable industries, continue to rely on the Chinese supply chain. And also that Wetstern companies don't develop anything close to a China free supply chain. That would require Chinese companies to continue to work with other countries and be involved in the mining, extracting and refining process. A whole that relies on Chinese rare earth supply chain is one that is dependent on China.
 

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Whatever this means. I think they need to try moving a little quicker given the current geopolitical environment. At this point, I think they are really interested in expanding yuan use in cross-border trade, investment. They are less willing to open up domestic financial market for fear of some type of currency/bank run.

Looks like after meeting with Xi, Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan both have decided to stand up against Russia a little more and have banned usage of MIR card. Maybe the Russians can still use Unionpay there.

A good article here talking about some of the things we discussed here. I think there are probably some CIPS transactions that are not caught by SWIFT. This is based on how much payment ASEAN/China trade payment cleared by CIPS (announced recently) vs how much RMB settlement have been tracked by SWIFT.
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Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan breaking with Russia is not necessarily beneficial to China. How does them refusing to use Mir payment system benefit China? Uzbekistan doesn't even have a land connection with China.
 

tphuang

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Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan breaking with Russia is not necessarily beneficial to China. How does them refusing to use Mir payment system benefit China? Uzbekistan doesn't even have a land connection with China.
not saying it's beneficial or not, but these 2 countries standing up to Europe is a consequence of them getting security protection from China. Uzbekistan is pretty important part of the second Europe rail, Afghanistan and train to Pakistan/Indian Ocean strategy. All these things hopefully complete by the end of this decade.
 

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Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan breaking with Russia is not necessarily beneficial to China. How does them refusing to use Mir payment system benefit China? Uzbekistan doesn't even have a land connection with China.
Russia needs to be kicked out from Central Asia. They have been putting roadblocks over roadblocks on Chinese efforts to expand their influence there.

This Ukrainian war is a god(Putin) sent opportunity to send them packing.

As for Mir, its very simple, why should they use Russian systems? They should use Chinese systems instead.
 

gelgoog

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Russia needs to be kicked out from Central Asia. They have been putting roadblocks over roadblocks on Chinese efforts to expand their influence there.

This Ukrainian war is a god(Putin) sent opportunity to send them packing.

As for Mir, its very simple, why should they use Russian systems? They should use Chinese systems instead.
So, you would rather the US uses these countries as a launch pad to continue their efforts to fester insurgencies on China's borders near Xingjiang?
 

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