Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)


Canton_pop

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Xsizor

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China already have the J20, is developing the J31/35 as well as the JHXX LO striker.

Did I miss something ? As much as I'd love to see the JHXX , i thought it was the common assumption among everyone here that JHXX has been buried in favor of H20.

personally, JHXX won't come online without a powerplant to empower it and that powerplant is WS15. Considering that WS10 has become relatively available, H20 doesn't look like a pipe dream anymore and has become an achievable option. WS15 won't become as numerous before 2040 and therfore JHXX won't be inducted ( if at all it hasn't been dropped right now) before 2040.

I'd like to be wrong and I sure hope I am wrong with this. A modified Su57 seemed like a good option hence my "proposal" / wish.
 

plawolf

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Did I miss something ? As much as I'd love to see the JHXX , i thought it was the common assumption among everyone here that JHXX has been buried in favor of H20.

personally, JHXX won't come online without a powerplant to empower it and that powerplant is WS15. Considering that WS10 has become relatively available, H20 doesn't look like a pipe dream anymore and has become an achievable option. WS15 won't become as numerous before 2040 and therfore JHXX won't be inducted ( if at all it hasn't been dropped right now) before 2040.

I'd like to be wrong and I sure hope I am wrong with this. A modified Su57 seemed like a good option hence my "proposal" / wish.

If they can push ahead with the J20 before WS15 is ready, what makes you think it’s going to stop the JHXX?

The common assumption is just that, assumptions. I have seen zero credible actual leaks or evidence that the JHXX is canned, and it would make little sense to try to roll its capabilities into the H20 strategic bomber.
 

ougoah

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These new pictures make it seem like they have really improved the surfaces and riveting. If the primer weren't as glossy, it would look not too different to the F-35's surfaces. New primer or materials? No more bichromatic primer photos. Anyway that's one sexy looking fighter.
 

siegecrossbow

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These new pictures make it seem like they have really improved the surfaces and riveting. If the primer weren't as glossy, it would look not too different to the F-35's surfaces. New primer or materials? No more bichromatic primer photos. Anyway that's one sexy looking fighter.

I know for a fact that they used new material for the cockpit. Supposedly they can even filter out nuclear weapons radiation. Not sure about the aircraft body but I assume they made advancements with the composites as well.
 

Tirdent

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I doubt anything much changed about the fit and finish of the actual airframe structure, and I'm not sure why people (you aren't alone in that assessment) think it's better than the prototypes at all. Mere absence of visible rivets =/= better conformance to the theoretical outer mold line, after all.

What has changed is that there now appears to be a layer of RAM on most parts of the aircraft. Note how deep-set the screws on the access panel for the IRST electronic boxes are and the indentations surrounding the three dielectric panels aft of the radome bulkhead.
 

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