Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

Dizasta1

Dizasta1

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I doubt the deployment of Su-57s has any political angle to it. There have been many a new military hardware/weapons which have been deployed in combat over Syria. Su-35s, Su-34s, S-400s, Panstirs, drones, newer versions of BUKs, Klub cruise missiles and etc. It doesn't mean that the Russians are going all out, or are desperate or anything else for that matter. It is a calculated move, for what reason only the Russian military leadership knows why. To somehow link the deployment of Su-57s directly to F-22s and make outright claims that the combat aircraft doesn't stand a chance, is a bit premature and nonsensical. Whichever the case, the Russians have done their best to save Syria. Shown great restraint, resilience and tact in helping Syria regain its territory and defeat ISIS. But to say that Russians are failing in Syria or are in a desperate situation there, is a novice view .

Considering Russia is under sanctions designed to cripple it's economy and bearing in mind that there are a multitude of factions fighting in Syria. It's quite an accomplishment that Russians have managed to push back ISIS and with it, their defeating ISIS with Syrian military joining forces.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The Political angle has been added, by the way they framed the Announcement.

anyway.
Russia’s new high-speed combat helicopter prototype to perform debut flight in 2019
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February 22, 11:42UTC+3
The new helicopter will be able to develop a speed of over 400 km per hour
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MOSCOW, February 22. /TASS/. The prototype of the new high-speed combat helicopter being developed by Russian Helicopters rotorcraft manufacturer (part of hi-tech corporation Rostec) for Russia’s Defense Ministry will perform its debut flight in 2019, Rostec CEO Sergei Chemezov told TASS on Thursday.

"Next year, we will continue experimental design work. We have developed quite substantial potential. The first flight tests of the experimental helicopter may take place during 2019 or closer to its end," the Rostec chief executive said.

The new helicopter will be able to develop a speed of over 400 km/h, he added.

As was reported earlier, the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant, part of Russian Helicopters Group, is carrying out R&D work on a combat helicopter with great potential for Russia’s Defense Ministry. Some technological solutions within the project have been tested on serial-produced models.


According to Russian Helicopters Group, specialists of the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant have developed a revolutionary design of the main rotor’s blade for this gunship.



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SteelBird

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Did I read this news wrong? I thought Su-57 is not combat ready yet!

Russia's most advanced fighter arrives in Syria
Washington (CNN)Russia has sent its most advanced fighter jet to Syria, a US military official tells CNN. It's a deployment that could potentially increase the level of danger to US forces operating inside the country.

The Su-57 is Moscow's most sophisticated military jet and comes equipped with stealth capability.
Russia's move comes despite a promise from President Vladimir Putin
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Russia's military commitment in the country.
"The addition of fifth-generation fighters into Syria would certainly not be in keeping with Russia's announced force drawdown," Pentagon spokesman Maj. Adrian Rankine-Galloway told CNN.

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Dizasta1

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Russians have a different method to other Western countries (usually employing similar standards to one another), whereby the combat aircraft is advanced through preliminary and intermediary phases of operational certifications and bring the combat aircraft online. While other parts of the aircraft's operational capability are integrated as and when available. At least that's how they carried aircraft operational certifications back when the Soviet Union existed. For the Russians to have deployed (Russia Today has acknowledged it's deployment), it would seem that they have something in mind, as the Russians are NOT in the habit of making senseless, irrational decisions (unlike certain some countries). It may also be part of the operational certification that Russia has decided to deploy it's Su-57 Stealth Jets to see how they perform in hot, dry and sandy atmosphere of Syria.

Whichever the case, it is clear that the Russian Federation is confident enough to deploy it's most advance combat aircraft in a "War Zone." Shows that it's a slap in the face of all parties concerned, who were behind the recent attacks on Russian Air Base and Naval Base in Syria. Deploying Su-57s in Latakia is like Russia saying "I dare you to try that again!!"
 
Hyperwarp

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I have a feeling the deployment of the Su-57 may have to do with its passive systems. They may never actually even turn on its RADARs during its deployment. F-22 has systems like AN/ALR-94 and AN/AAR-56, F-35 has AN/ASQ-239 and AN/AAQ-37. The F-22 is deployed in Syria so the Russians maybe trying to see whether the passive systems in the Su-57 can detect the F-22. They might use the Su-35 as bait and fly it really close to the borders of the different factions.
 
siegecrossbow

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Hyperwarp said:
I have a feeling the deployment of the Su-57 may have to do with its passive systems. They may never actually even turn on its RADARs during its deployment. F-22 has systems like AN/ALR-94 and AN/AAR-56, F-35 has AN/ASQ-239 and AN/AAQ-37. The F-22 is deployed in Syria so the Russians maybe trying to see whether the passive systems in the Su-57 can detect the F-22. They might use the Su-35 as bait and fly it really close to the borders of the different factions.
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Does that mean the Su-57s might not be carrying weapons during its deployment in Syria?
 
Air Force Brat

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Does that mean the Su-57s might not be carrying weapons during its deployment in Syria?
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I would imagine the weapons bays may be loaded, even if the fire control system hasn't been fully tested?? I mean with the Russians, someone may post it at some point,, they try to look sneaky by taking out a "front page ad" and then telling people,, "whatever you do, don't tell anyone!, OK"

They want "EVERYONE to KNOW! the SU-57 is in SYRIA!", this is a political statement, ad campaign, and training exercise, all rolled into a little bit of fuel for a fly-out, a great deal Komrad!

and yes, we are very, very afraid, for those who want to intimidate the US,,, we are just over here shaking in our boots,,, just hope that makes some of our sensitive posters feel better.

I'm really happy for Su-57 fans, yes it is apparent that there are NOW at least 4 Prototypes that are able to deploy out of country, and this whole exercise is kind of a hook to get the Indians to bite,,, kind of like your ex-girlfriend stepping out with another dude in order to make you jealous?? and the SU-57 is a gorgeous thing, at least for fans, a chance to see her up close and personal, also a teaser for the US military,,, kinda inviting them to come take a look as well, hoping that we will fire up a Raptor or two for a little rendezvous, or maybe 4 F-35's..

so we'll see?? as master Jeff says, it will be interesting, News at Nine komrad.
 
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