Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

[Deino]

Can you give us a translation, my translator does not recognize the URL or some such nonsense?

and I most def go with the Deino version, as most of that is my own common sense gut instinct of what Sukhoi will do, based on what Sukhoi has done in the past. I am a Sukhoi fanboy, I love their stuff, but they do a lot of propaganda as well, most of their hardware is superior, as is the T-50, but its not gonna be as stealthy as per their own insiders??

Sorry ...

Т-50-6-2 - начата отработка двигателей, 10-12 апреля - частотные испытания с новой версией КСУ, первый полёт по графику - 23.04.
Т-50-8 - идёт нанесение РПП, окончание по графику - 28.04.
Т-50-9 - выполнено накрытие композитными панелями СЧФ, стыковка ОЧК до 20.04.
Т-50-10 - выполнена стыковка фюзеляжа.
Т-50-11 - выполнена стыковка центроплана.
Принято решение о "серийном лице" Т-50 - комплекс бортового оборудования как у Т-50-9, планер как у Т-50-11.

It says about that the next T50 to fly will be T50-6-2 currently scheduled for around 23rd April according to some "insider" on a Russian forum. Otherwise, work was accomplished/done on the engines of that bird between April 10th and 12th. and there was some frequency testing for the new FC-software.
Also, the so far planned serial T50 will be like T50-9 in terms of avionics and other internal stuff and like T50-11 in terms of airframe.

But that's surely all BS, faked Western propaganda, PAK-FA-bashing and so on since it is not from TV Zvezda or Russianplanes.net.

Deino

 

[Air Force Brat]

Sorry ...



It says about that the next T50 to fly will be T50-6-2 currently scheduled for around 23rd April according to some "insider" on a Russian forum. Otherwise, work was accomplished/done on the engines of that bird between April 10th and 12th. and there was some frequency testing for the new FC-software.
Also, the so far planned serial T50 will be like T50-9 in terms of avionics and other internal stuff and like T50-11 in terms of airframe.

But that's surely all BS, faked Western propaganda, PAK-FA-bashing and so on since it is not from TV Zvezda or Russianplanes.net.

Deino

Roger That and thank you very much!

 

[Equation]

Sorry ...



It says about that the next T50 to fly will be T50-6-2 currently scheduled for around 23rd April according to some "insider" on a Russian forum.

So, all we have to do is wait for 3 more days from today to hear or see more about it.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Can you give us a translation, ...

I very briefly (because neither b787 nor anti-b787 believe me checked against what Brumby pulled from me LOL
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pak-fa-fgfa-discussions.t7155/page-134#post-395060
and it seems they're coupla months late, just one example

"Т-50-9 putting detachable wing parts on 10.02.2016 ..." according to that post from last year, now I see
"Т-50-9 ... 20.04" for presumably the same in
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pak-fa-fgfa-discussions.t7155/page-139#post-396432
(that's how I called стыковка ОЧК, ОЧК = Отсеченная Часть Крыла) but no, you don't need to tell me I'm wrong, it's fake, whom you believe, whatever

 

[b787]

@b787

Yes I know Your argument, but mine - and so far You still seem to ignore to reply to mine - is that not necessarily everything from "close to the manufacture" must be true - similar like LM announced issues with the F-35 to the full extent even if they are well documented - and also that not all members in different forum, especially when they try to hide their true names, are fabricating BS, fake-propaganda ... several of them are much closer connected to UAC/Sukhoi and as such much more reliable than some official media.

But anyway You post Your stuff and I will mine ... and all others can decide who's wrong or right.

Deino

To start, the forum poster has no name but a nickname, in few words he can be any one.
About the T-50-6 every one is expecting it, you do not need to be a prophet, but there is a man, and i know you did not know about the article from a real industry insider who was interviewed by a prestigious Russian magazine

If you go to page 30th, you will find an interview to Yuri white or Yury Bely who is the director of the Tikhomirov NIIP, the guy says the T-50-6 has already the AESA radar set and it is due to fly before the end of the year (2015) with the whole set of radars, frontal, side and wing leading edge sets

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To me this is far more reliable than a poster that has no accountability, hides behind a nickname and who no one can verify his or her identity

 

[Deino]

You simply do not want to listen !? Really ?? ... not that I want to persuade You nor that I demand to trust me, but at least to be so open minded to keep into consideration that even an unknown poster in a forum hiding behind a nick can be in fact an insider who's reliable - in fact like You said, he could be anyone, maybe even the program manager, the chief designer of the T50 - and in return that an official source can exaggerate, deny certain things or even lie simply due to other reasons ... that does not come to Your mind ?!

By the way I do not deny Mr. Bely's words and they do not contradict the reports from our mysterious poster. The fact that T50-6 has all radars does not contradict that the final radar configuration ready for serial production will only be applied to no. 09 !

Anyway ... let us simply agree to disagree.

Deino

 

[b787]

You simply do not want to listen !? Really ?? ... not that I want to persuade You nor that I demand to trust me, but at least to be so open minded to keep into consideration that even an unknown poster in a forum hiding behind a nick can be in fact an insider who's reliable - in fact like You said, he could be anyone, maybe even the program manager, the chief designer of the T50 - and in return that an official source can exaggerate, deny certain things or even lie simply due to other reasons ... that does not come to Your mind ?!

By the way I do not deny Mr. Bely's words and they do not contradict the reports from our mysterious poster. The fact that T50-6 has all radars does not contradict that the final radar configuration ready for serial production will only be applied to no. 09 !

Anyway ... let us simply agree to disagree.

Deino

Please Deino, any Sukhoi Manager does not need a nickname in a Forum, that is funny, Yury Bely simply goes to take off.ru and says whatever he has been authorized by UAC and Sukhoi, any top official from Sukhoi and UAC will do it that way, ROSTEC has the same function to take off.ru.


I doubt the information simply because the only person who will post in a forum is a low ranking official, and i see no point for Sukhoi to use a forum when they have magazines, official pages to do it and i doubt it since all information has to be authorized PAKFA is a classified program.


Now T-50-6 already exists, Yury Bely confirms it, before November 2015 he confirmed it, he said the aircraft has the whole set of radars, all, the nose, side and wing leading edge sets.

So T-50-6 is a fact, not a rumor or gossip.

Will it fly on 23th April 2016? who knows, i am also a fan and a poster, no one special, no industry insider, but i doubt it, when it fly? well any time soon because Yury Bely said T-50-6 was expected to fly before 2016, so if it flies tomorrow or in May or in June is not going to be a surprise to me, but let us see if it flies on 23rd April 2016

 

[Deino]

Latest rumour from an "unreliable" source ... maiden flight is planned for tomorrow !

 

[b787]

Latest rumour from an "unreliable" source ... maiden flight is planned for tomorrow !

Первый полёт Т-50-6-2 назначен на завтра.

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these all the emotions i experience

 

[b787]

some people think this is T-50-6, because the footage they speculate is less than 1 or 2 months old

tv program recently aired by Channel 24th Russia