Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)
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This is indeed progress, so hopefully we will see the fully redesigned 6-2 very shortly???
Not really ... airframe no. 7 is finished already since December 2014; the image DigoSSA posted is from 2014)
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true, but apparently static testing is proceeding, and hopefully the sources of the cracking have become apparent in that ongoing testing?? does your source have any idea what the hold-up may be on 6-2 or at least its current status?
In final assembly? finished, nearing flight test??? There are invariably delays with new gen aircraft, and tremendous expenses as evidenced by the PAK-FA being specked out at 250 million per copy to the Indians?? where Su-35 s are 125 or 150 million for what at this stage appears to be a very similar airframe and powerplant?
b787
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I will tell why i doubt the information, the pictures of Russianplanes.net come with an author and a date, do you think this picture comes without a name?
this picture comes with a name because the author has been authorized by the Russian government to do it.
Look at the bottom of the picture and you will see Alexander Mishin
if you look the picture was taken close in an air base, do you think it is easy to get security clearance?
Now how many of those forum posters come with a real name? TV Zvezda or Russianplanes.net come with real names why? simple it is a well choreographed exercise of public relations.
all the supposedly T-5-XX prototype comes with no official confirmation, you can see the static prototype picture that by way are TV reports footage from wings of Russia, TV Zvezda or Channel one Russia or in its worse case russianplanes.net all come with names dates.
All is official. PAKFA is a classiffied program, so information only comes up if it is authorized
@b787
Yes I know Your argument, but mine - and so far You still seem to ignore to reply to mine - is that not necessarily everything from "close to the manufacture" must be true - similar like LM announced issues with the F-35 to the full extent even if they are well documented - and also that not all members in different forum, especially when they try to hide their true names, are fabricating BS, fake-propaganda ... several of them are much closer connected to UAC/Sukhoi and as such much more reliable than some official media.
But anyway You post Your stuff and I will mine ... and all others can decide who's wrong or right.
Deino
Yes I know Your argument, but mine - and so far You still seem to ignore to reply to mine - is that not necessarily everything from "close to the manufacture" must be true - similar like LM announced issues with the F-35 to the full extent even if they are well documented - and also that not all members in different forum, especially when they try to hide their true names, are fabricating BS, fake-propaganda ... several of them are much closer connected to UAC/Sukhoi and as such much more reliable than some official media.
But anyway You post Your stuff and I will mine ... and all others can decide who's wrong or right.
Deino
Can you give us a translation, my translator does not recognize the URL or some such nonsense?
and I most def go with the Deino version, as most of that is my own common sense gut instinct of what Sukhoi will do, based on what Sukhoi has done in the past. I am a Sukhoi fanboy, I love their stuff, but they do a lot of propaganda as well, most of their hardware is superior, as is the T-50, but its not gonna be as stealthy as per their own insiders??