Russian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.


ougoah

Captain
Registered Member
LOL weren't these Jai Hind losers also busy telling the whole world that everyone is against China? Didn't Russia supposedly abandon China and refuse to supply those S-400 (deliveries complete according to TASS) to China just a few weeks ago?

All of a sudden China depends 100% on Russia. Everything in China is super duper dependent on Russia the superior one. lol these clowns are a riot of laughs sometimes.

Now undisclosed weapons require Russia's hand presumably to match duper super Rafa. Indians will never stop their war of words because they've got nothing better and won't help themselves out of their miserable conditions either.
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
LOL weren't these Jai Hind losers also busy telling the whole world that everyone is against China? Didn't Russia supposedly abandon China and refuse to supply those S-400 (deliveries complete according to TASS) to China just a few weeks ago?

All of a sudden China depends 100% on Russia. Everything in China is super duper dependent on Russia the superior one. lol these clowns are a riot of laughs sometimes.

Now undisclosed weapons require Russia's hand presumably to match duper super Rafa. Indians will never stop their war of words because they've got nothing better and won't help themselves out of their miserable conditions either.
Yes indeed, I read one of these articles from a website which is supposedly a western one, with author having a western name and it stated that China's military strength in Xinjiang is considerably less than that of india's northern and eastern military commands. This is, allegedly due to Xinjiang's military district allocating half it's force at the Russia-China border.
The thought of Chinese military tying up much of its military forces at its north western border is preposterous
Russia being China's most important trading partner, a close ally, would be threat to it.

Journalism today has become pathetic especially with the likes of msm and their lapdogs in the Arab world and india.
 

Tirdent

Junior Member
Registered Member
Be interesting to know how old that footage actually is, because (as discussed at length here some time ago) the missile has apparently been operational on the MiG-31BM for a couple of years already.
 

Tirdent

Junior Member
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

First real footage of Tsirkon? Not that it is terribly revealing if true, and it's possible that Oniks is shown at least in the launch close-up.

However, I would caution that the X-51ski configuration commonly associated with Tsirkon in the press may well be speculative, so the fact that it doesn't look like that doesn't necessarily indicate we're seeing something else. Further, an intake cover with tip-over thrusters makes sense in a VLS-launched hypersonic airbreather for all the same reasons why it is present on Oniks - doesn't mean it's actually an Oniks.

Notably, the missile does not tilt over through 90° after launch like Oniks typically does - this makes sense for a missile claimed to have traveled at Mach 8 out to 450km (you're not going to do either, let alone in combination, in sea-level air). Then again, Oniks obviously can fly high-altitude profiles as well... this is shaping up to be a bit of a 53T6 tease story :( Hope it doesn't take 30 years before we get clear close-up photos!

Another report additionally gives an altitude of 28km and a flight time of 4.5 minutes. That works out to an average of 1.67km/s or Mach 5.7 at that height on a cold day - the peak speed would obviously be greater than this, so something approaching Mach 8 is at least within the realm of credibility.
 
Last edited:

gelgoog

Senior Member
Registered Member
The closest facsimile we've had of what Tsirkon might look like are the mockups shown in trade fairs for BrahMos-II.
FIRST PHOTOS: What The Hypersonic BrahMos II Looks Like ...
Hyper-sonic BrahMos 2 is becoming a distant dream for ...


Given how BrahMos is a clone of the Oniks missile and how BrahMos-II is also a scramjet missile made in collaboration with the same Russian design bureau which made Tsirkon with expected prototype in 2020 with Mach 7 speed and 450km range... well.

There is also a press release on TASS about the test launch of Tsirkon from Admiral Gorshkov.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

Top