QBZ-191 service rifle family

Blitzo

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Lol just don't call a mag a clip and you won't trigger the gun nerd in me!

I just noticed the selector is 0 - 2 - 1 instead of 0 - 1 - 2 like most western assault rifles. Very interesting to see this hold over from Soviet doctrine, as select fire AKs/Type 56 are Safe - Auto - Semi.

I'm 99.9% sure that's the case on the QBZ95s and 03s as well.
 

steel21

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A much clearer image (of a carbine with silencer). This confirms that the optics are the same as Holosun's, except branded differently.

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For the sake of that odd nudge on my back when this thing is slinged, I hope they make 191 with a folding charging handle like on the L1A1 (folding forward when not in use).
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I still can't see why 191 can't have a folding stock variant, unless there is a buffer tube and spring housed in the current stock.

BTW, the current stock doesn't look like it houses a spring, as the shape of the extendable stock is not tubular and can create unnecessary friction points for the compression of a spring.

Well, we wouldn't know until there are pics of a field stripped 191.

Also, notice the 191 follows the current trend started with ACR, allowing the trigger finger to pop out the mag. Lastly, it looks pretty certain that the 191 can use after market AR pistol grips.

Hmm... I wonder if 191 can use AR trigger packs?

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Mt1701d

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For the sake of that odd nudge on my back when this thing is slinged, I hope they make 191 with a folding charging handle like on the L1A1 (folding forward when not in use).
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I still can't see why 191 can't have a folding stock variant, unless there is a buffer tube and spring housed in the current stock.

BTW, the current stock doesn't look like it houses a spring, as the shape of the extendable stock is not tubular and can create unnecessary friction points for the compression of a spring.

Well, we wouldn't know until there are pics of a field stripped 191.

Also, notice the 191 follows the current trend started with ACR, allowing the trigger finger to pop out the mag. Lastly, it looks pretty certain that the 191 can use after market AR pistol grips.

Hmm... I wonder if 191 can use AR trigger packs?

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From the videos of PLA training for their transitions from rifle to side arms... I don’t think the nudge would be an issue for PLA, plus they don’t tend to think for left hand users so it understandable they don’t really care for it at all. Also there seems to be a circular metal ‘flap’ on the receiver where it meets the hand-guard so a folding handle might be a bit hard to get to with gloves... but since the 191 have a bolt hold open and therefore doesn’t need to charge after each mag change, I tend to agree with you that a folding handle would be good and shouldn’t be an issue...

As for the possibility of a buffer tube... I don’t think it’s hard to imagine that there is a separate internal structure or a separate tube inside the current stock... also from the close-up of the 191 test firing... the charging handle seems to travel the entire length of it’s ‘slot’ on the right side of the rifle... so it suggest that the current stock have some room to accommodate the bolt carrier... but you are right until we get a field strip of the rifle, we wouldn’t know for sure...
 
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