QBZ-191 service rifle family

[Aniah]

That looked awesome, especially love the modder's attention to detail. Thumb over bore grip is one thing I teach to newer AR shooters, or any rifle that has AR height sights. That type of reload is also what I teach to newer AK shooters. Of course there is no bolt catch on AKs so they will have to cant the rifle to reach the charging handle.

The only nitpick I have is seeing the rifle getting "cocked" when brought up (when they should be loaded ready to go before stepping out) and the right hand being used to charge it but yes I know its a video game. Being around real guns makes me nitpick everything gun related in media lol.

Curious about your preference then. Over or under for AK charging handle? Also, what is thumb over bore?

 

[Norinco_81]

Curious about your preference then. Over or under for AK charging handle? Also, what is thumb over bore?

It depends. Over feels more natural and faster and is my preferred method but when an optic is mounted I got to go under.

Thumb over bore is wrapping your thumb over the top of the handguard. Since now you got your thumb over the bore of the rifle you have better control of the muzzle. This in turn allows for better recoil management, faster follow up shots. With AKs and other rifles with low iron sights, I put my thumb up but cognitively ensure my thumb isn't obstructing my sight picture. So my thumb will be just left of my iron sights.

 

[by78]

The full-length version. Note the optics.

 

[Aniah]

The full-length version. Note the optics.

Is that front sight a holosun sight?

 

[by78]

The full-length version. Note the optics.

I can't be 100% sure, but it looks like the same logo in these images. That company could be the OEM behind Holosun.

 

[by78]

Is that front sight a holosun sight?

I did some more digging around, and I think I found the corresponding Holosun sights: HM3X Magnifier + HS510 series open reflex. The pair was

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. If the PLA procures them, the price of course would be cheaper, likely considerably so.

 

[Norinco_81]

I have the same combo on my AR-15 pistol. I use the HE-510C-GR as I prefer green reticules over red and especially amber!

Just curious if the DART185 optic for the new rifle is even available for purchase or export? I would love to test it on my midlength AR, see how it compares to an ACOG and the Primary Arms SL3x Prism I have on one of my AKs.

 

[by78]

A much clearer image (of a carbine with silencer). This confirms that the optics are the same as Holosun's, except branded differently.

 

[Mohsin77]

A much clearer image (of a carbine with silencer).

... sigh.

 

[Aniah]

A much clearer image (of a carbine with silencer). This confirms that the optics are the same as Holosun's, except branded differently.

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That's a full length not a carbine right?