QBZ-191 service rifle family


EdgeOfEcho

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I went through the video a bit slowly and screen capped some interesting details:

First is the new optic for QBU-191.
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Interesting design, it does not use a separate system in which the scope can be detached from the ring mount.
Instead it seems to be a integral system in which the scope and the mount are a single unit.
I am not familiar with these high powered scopes, so I am not sure about why they designed it like this (most high powered scopes I know in the West have the scope and ring mount as separate parts). Perhaps an integral design can make the production process easier and cheaper?(Having a separate ring mount is useful for switching to different scopes, but I guess you don't really need to switch scopes in the PLA given limited options so it is a unnecessary design)

I see 3 adjustment nobs in the front of the scope. One for windage and one for elevation, what about the third one? My assumption is that the one in the front is a slot for battery or a turn on/off switch?
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This part of the scope have grooves to improve friction, which suggest to me that the magnification is adjusted in the rear of the sight by turning, which is a common design for scopes like this.

So from the looks of it, the optic has 4 adjustment mechanisms. One for windage (in the middle), one for elevation (in the middle), one for magnification (at the rear of the scope), so the most likely function of the nob in the front is to store batteries (or on/off switch).

for comparison, here is a Eotech Vudu 1-6x scope.
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Translucent magazine for QBU191
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I feel like we have seen quite a few variations of magazines for QBZ-191, not sure which design will be the final version to issued on a massive scale. Of course I do like the translucent one compared to more traditional ones.

These are some photos of the new optic on the LMG:
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I don't see any optic fiber on this scope and it seems like a pretty simple design.
I guess it is a PLA equivalent of M145 scope?
For some reason this optic gives me a bit of the "old" or "primitive" vibe, but perhaps this basic design is chosen to cut weight.
 

Aniah

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I went through the video a bit slowly and screen capped some interesting details:

First is the new optic for QBU-191.
View attachment 71191

Interesting design, it does not use a separate system in which the scope can be detached from the ring mount.
Instead it seems to be a integral system in which the scope and the mount are a single unit.
I am not familiar with these high powered scopes, so I am not sure about why they designed it like this (most high powered scopes I know in the West have the scope and ring mount as separate parts). Perhaps an integral design can make the production process easier and cheaper?(Having a separate ring mount is useful for switching to different scopes, but I guess you don't really need to switch scopes in the PLA given limited options so it is a unnecessary design)

I see 3 adjustment nobs in the front of the scope. One for windage and one for elevation, what about the third one? My assumption is that the one in the front is a slot for battery or a turn on/off switch?
View attachment 71194

This part of the scope have grooves to improve friction, which suggest to me that the magnification is adjusted in the rear of the sight by turning, which is a common design for scopes like this.

So from the looks of it, the optic has 4 adjustment mechanisms. One for windage (in the middle), one for elevation (in the middle), one for magnification (at the rear of the scope), so the most likely function of the nob in the front is to store batteries (or on/off switch).

for comparison, here is a Eotech Vudu 1-6x scope.
View attachment 71195

Translucent magazine for QBU191
View attachment 71192

I feel like we have seen quite a few variations of magazines for QBZ-191, not sure which design will be the final version to issued on a massive scale. Of course I do like the translucent one compared to more traditional ones.

These are some photos of the new optic on the LMG:
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View attachment 71193

I don't see any optic fiber on this scope and it seems like a pretty simple design.
I guess it is a PLA equivalent of M145 scope?
For some reason this optic gives me a bit of the "old" or "primitive" vibe, but perhaps this basic design is chosen to cut weight.
It's good seeing that they are finally putting more budget into individual equipment. I can only see it getting better from here especially those from the aftermarket. Also, that translucent magazine seems different from the semi-translucent magazine we've been seeing.
 

Norinco_81

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Really liking the the screenshots of the new gear and weapons. Good to see the PLA hasn't ignored a PEQ style VIS/IR aiming device.

As for the QBZ-191 mags, I hope they are properly steel reinforced like Russian and Bulgarian military AK mags, especially the translucent ones. Also hope they came up with a translucent polymer that is just as strong as opaque.

For the most part, translucent magazines tend to crack much easier than opaque polymer or metal mags. I've seen everything from Russian AK-12, Bulgarian ((10)), H&K factory 416 and Gen 1 CZ Scorpion Evo translucent mags all crack starting at the feedlips because of lack of steel reinforcement or just brittle polymer. This is why Magpul hasn't sold a translucent mag in years and Lancer has always built steel feedlips into the mag body. The only clear mags I've never seen crack despite heavy use and abuse are Polish Beryl mags and my ETS Glock mags.
 

Saru

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Question regarding QBZ191

Is this kind of reload possible with the QBZ191? can someone explain to me how the mag pull works on this rifle?

 

Mt1701d

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Question regarding QBZ191

Is this kind of reload possible with the QBZ191? can someone explain to me how the mag pull works on this rifle?

It’s technically possible... the 191 uses a rock and lock mag... where the front of the mag is place in the mag well and ‘rock’ back to lock in place similar to how AK mags works. It is released by a paddle just in front of the trigger guard... the release paddle of the 191 has a flap extending on the right side, so the trigger finger can directly push on the release paddle... and depending how loosely the mag sits in the mag well and how much clearance the bit on the mag that locks in place has... it should technically be possible to give a yank on the rifle or a further push by the trigger finger to detach the mag in the fashion displayed but probably not as exaggerated tho where the mag flying out... it would probably be more of a drop like AR mag...
 
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ohan_qwe

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Would it be possible or have any pros if a spring is placed somewhere to eject the mag. It could also make magazine rattle less if it's under tension.
 

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