QBZ-191 service rifle family

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ohan_qwe said:
I see finger on trigger like OSHA rules in workplace and China ignore both.

Just like a Chinese factories is efficient the army can be combat effective ignoring safety rules.
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Talk to the 1979 Chinese vets who accidentally shot civilians and nearly killed each other due to lack of safety. Basic weapon handling is quite literally easy to teach. You have to be, frankly speaking, retarded to not be able to learn it.
ohan_qwe said:
Looking at Ukraine the important thing on the battlefield seems to be drones and shells which China is focusing on. I haven't heard an actual Ukrainian/Russian commander complain about too many trigger accidents.
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You are talking about forces who throw away their rifles when they see drones. Both sides’ training and professionalism are spotty at best. Their lack of attention to detail and willingness to be cheap even with life saving equipment like tourniquets are quite literally killing them right now. Excluding units such as Russian and Ukrainian SSO, maybe Russian Marines, 12th Azov, and maybe VDV, they are 100% the last military forces you want to emulate.
 
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LawLeadsToPeace said:
You are talking about forces who throw away their rifles when they see drones. Both sides’ training and professionalism are spotty at best. Their lack of attention to detail and willingness to be cheap even with life saving equipment like tourniquets are quite literally killing them right now. Excluding units such as Russian and Ukrainian SSO, maybe Russian Marines, 12th Azov, and maybe VDV, they are 100% the last military forces you want to emulate.
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The US Military isn't any better, if anything they're worse because they're an endless money pit so the US military justs waste resources and taxpayer money for no reason.

The XM7 Rifle is basically a complete disaster compared to the QBZ 191 because atleast the QBZ 191 is a new design with noticble upgrades while XM7 is a shittier version of M16 with everyone not happy with it.

This Iraq veterans account where long story shot a convoy left a functioning bradley and it's driver behind after it was hit with an IED, the Base commander using the survailliance blimp to look inside the base instead of outside and a base SGM stopping conveys at the same spot to makesure they're wearing seatbelts which led to his gunner getting killed.
 
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A potato said:
The US Military isn't any better, if anything they're worse because they're an endless money pit so the US military justs waste resources and taxpayer money for no reason.

The XM7 Rifle is basically a complete disaster compared to the QBZ 191 because atleast the QBZ 191 is a new design with noticble upgrades while XM7 is a shittier version of M16 with everyone not happy with it.

This Iraq veterans account where long story shot a convoy left a functioning bradley and it's driver behind after it was hit with an IED, the Base commander using the survailliance blimp to look inside the base instead of outside and a base SGM stopping conveys at the same spot to makesure they're wearing seatbelts which led to his gunner getting killed.
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Just because one country’s officers do something dumb doesn’t mean you should do the same. Stop with the “Whataboutism”. I have never said that the US military personnel had a perfect track record. We are focusing specifically on the PLA and pointing out issues that we notice repeatedly. That is the point of this forum. This isn’t a circlejerk about how great China is and how everyone else just sucks. Given how we are going off topic, this is going to be my last say on it as well.
 
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