QBZ-191 service rifle family


TerraN_EmpirE

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First one should be rain/high humidity test, as evident by the technician's raincoat, 2nd is the dust/dust test, simulating desert condition, aas evident by the technician wearing PPE and respirator, as well as the rifle has an obvious layer of dust over it.
One would also expect a extreme cold weather test. Bring the rifle down to about 40 below zero (both F and C)
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Agreed I have a feeling these images didn’t go beyond a single day’s tests. The images we see are probably just A staged dust test. I am not saying that they didn’t do the tests military testing is normally to extremes because such weapons or systems Could find themselves in such. From instant frost bite cold to sweltering heat. Extremes of Dust and Humidity, Salt water submersion, and since it’s a weapon excessive firing. I am saying the camera crew was probably only allowed on scene for a set period so they practiced a little Hollywood.
 

Bltizo

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Agreed I have a feeling these images didn’t go beyond a single day’s tests. The images we see are probably just A staged dust test. I am not saying that they didn’t do the tests military testing is normally to extremes because such weapons or systems Could find themselves in such. From instant frost bite cold to sweltering heat. Extremes of Dust and Humidity, Salt water submersion, and since it’s a weapon excessive firing. I am saying the camera crew was probably only allowed on scene for a set period so they practiced a little Hollywood.

Are you talking about the video or the pictures?

Cause in the video at 2:30 they mentioned their tests in that area was done over 40 days.

If you're talking about the pictures of the dust and water test, well obviously those pictures don't tell us anything apart from that those tests depicted occurred, but nothing about the duration or extent, but it's not like there's anything strange about that.
 

by78

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The new 5.8mm LMG seen here undergoing accuracy tests.

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Kejora

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The new 5.8mm LMG seen here undergoing accuracy tests.

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So this will be the China's M249 equivalent?
I also notice something resembling magazine latch in front of the trigger, is this new LMG dual fed like Negev?
 

Sunbud

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So this will be the China's M249 equivalent?
I also notice something resembling magazine latch in front of the trigger, is this new LMG dual fed like Negev?

China has been an interesting case in terms of Machine guns. An M249 is a SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) normally a belt fed weapon using the same ammunition as the standard rifleman. Light, can put down a high volume of fire but not really designed for sustained, long range or static mount firing.

GPMGs (general purpose machine gun) are heavier, use a full power rifle round, and are better designed to provide long range, sustained fire possibly in a static mount.

Now China's current standard service machinegun is a GPMG, the QJY 88 uses the 5.8mm round (albeit a heavier powder and projectile load) rather than a full power rifle round. The PLA's SAW is the QBB 95 also using the 5.8mm.

Since the PLA use 5.8mm for both SAW and GPMG the distinction isn't and has never been clear. This new MG could be used in a SAW or GPMG role depending on its configuration, i.e barrel length, static mount, bipod etc. This line would be further blurred if the PLA decide to replace the QBB 95 with this 5.8mm MG (makes sense with the introduction of the QBZ 191).

simple answer is: as per Chinese MG doctrine of not using full power rifle rounds and sticking to 5.8mm for all their squad small arms, the new MG could either be a SAW (M249) or GPMG (PKM, M240) according to the part configuration it operates in. Key difference being the ability to provide long range (long/short light/heavy barrel?), sustained fire and use in a mount.
 

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