PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)
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I see a border between North and South Vietnam. As far as I'm aware this border was instituted by the Geneva Conference of 1954 to be valid until the presidential election of 1956 which did not take place because a free and fair election would have been won by the North Vietnamese president.
@joshuatree
Satellite picture of Meiji Island taken on 13 Oct 2015. From what I can tell, the purported runway is on the northwest, if China decides to put one in.
The quality of this picture is quite good. Click on the pic to see the enlargement.
Satellite picture of Meiji Island taken on 13 Oct 2015. From what I can tell, the purported runway is on the northwest, if China decides to put one in.
The quality of this picture is quite good. Click on the pic to see the enlargement.
Good catch. I rechecked the source.
It was from "The Times Atlas of China" (published 1974 september), pg 115, edited by P.J.M.Geelan and D.C.Twitchett.
So it was from a atlas about China(!), published by an English company, showing SCS islands centered.
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Considering the size of Chinese reclamation is tens of times that of all other islands combined, that is a rational focus.
Yet you post 'most of the occupation is by Vietnam'.
The image above shows the reality.
Considering the size of Chinese reclamation is tens of times that of all other islands combined, that is a rational focus.
Yet you post 'most of the occupation is by Vietnam'.
The image above shows the reality.
Here is a map from a 1938 school text book printed in China under the Nationalists.
By your 'logic and reasoning' all of SE Asia, Nepal, Bhutan and much of Southern Siberia belong to China. Parts of Central Asia, Bangladesh, the Malay Peninsula, Singapore, Myanmar, Afghanistan (good luck with that one China!), and the entire Korean Peninsula also.
Why? Because it is on a old map.
If the map was printed by a non-Chinese source, even more valid.
China is tens of times larger and put in tens of times of not hundreds times more resources into the reclamation, I'd be horrified if the reclamation size is not tens of times larger. Of course it is only rational.
Large majority of the original individual Islands/reefs/cay/sandbars what not is occupied by Vietnam.
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Here is a map from a 1938 school text book printed in China under the Nationalists.
By your 'logic and reasoning' all of SE Asia, Nepal, Bhutan and much of Southern Siberia belong to China. Parts of Central Asia, Bangladesh, the Malay Peninsula, Singapore, Myanmar, Afghanistan (good luck with that one China!), and the entire Korean Peninsula also.
Why? Because it is on a old map.
If the map was printed by a non-Chinese source, even more valid.
They left out the Philippines.
Jokes.
All I did was state what was there.
I'm not biased, I can accept Chinese source if you want. I know you probably wouldn't, so I thought maybe English one would be gentler, or maybe even Spanish...
But yeah I think the above map is a bit too crazy even for me, there you go I'm not that unreasonable.
joshuatree
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joshuatree
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Occupation is a very critical factor here. When the environment does not make sending in reinforcements easy (lots of sea, little land, good distances from "mainlands"; where and how many are occupied is a rational focus. The image does show reality and that is Vietnam was slowly creeping up in number of sites occupied, their own "string of pearls", and implications that go with that. With Vietnam upgrading their air force and navy combined with number of sites occupied, it does pose a threat to other claimants' holdings. It's not hard for some Vietnamese SU-MK2Vs to be called in to respond in the Spratly Islands accompanied by Gepards as an example. The context would be a limited and localized engagement. And the Taiwanese have reported in the past of probing around Taiping being conducted by the Vietnamese. So a countermove has been executed and it was planned to not just level the field, but to future proof rival reclamation.efforts.