PLAN Mine/Counter Mine vessel Thread

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They got a new type of unmanned remote controlled minesweeper. Don't ask me how they judged this to be remote controlled, but that's what the person who posted the pictures said.
 

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They got a new type of unmanned remote controlled minesweeper. Don't ask me how they judged this to be remote controlled, but that's what the person who posted the pictures said.

this could be just the mother vessel that we're seeing. the unmanned mine sweeper might be referring to a module that this vessel carries
 

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this could be just the mother vessel that we're seeing. the unmanned mine sweeper might be referring to a module that this vessel carries

They should be, since the guy who posted it is a pretty respectable source.

Anyway, it's kind of interesting to compare this to German navy's Type 352 class of MCM ships.

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They are converted from Type 343 Hameln class minesweepers from 1999 to 2001. They are 54,4 m long, 9.2 m in beam and 2.7 m in draught.

And they are designed to employ up to four remote controlled Seehund ("Seal") drones which perform the sweep. Each Seehund drone is around 25 m long and 99 t in displacement.

So, the Type 802A Minehunter no. 804 and these Type 8041 remote controlled drones can act in the same way. Type 802A minehunter is 55m in length, 9.3m in beam, and 2.6m in draught (about the same as Type 343 class). And each of these remote controlled minesweeping drones are about 26 m in length. Looks like PLAN could be copying the Germans in concept, although about 20 years too late. And they also need to build about 3 or 4 of these Type 802As + about 15 to 20 Type 8041 before they can get a decent size MCM force to replace all of the old T-43 based fleet.

Maybe Type 8041 is like Seehund in that it can be remote controlled or operated by a small crew of 2 or 3 people during transit.
 
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according to the poster, this is a new unit of the type 082II class minehunter. The only one in service thus far is 804 which I have also attached the photo for. It is a little hard to tell, but I think the masts and the structures of the bridge do confirm these theories.
 

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franco-russe

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No wish to be difficult, but quite frankly to me it looks more like a WOCHI class (805-810-839-840 - Type 081? Type 084?). Anyway, with all those flags flying, it must be about to be launched, so we will hopefully know the precise identity of the new unit quite soon. Is it known which shipyard it is?
 

franco-russe

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Just speculating: The photos of the minesweeper under construction seem to have been taken at a great distance, and likely belong to the same batch of hsh.hobby.shanghai pictures as the recent photos of the newcon destroyer. The implication would be that the minesweeper is also building at the new Jiangnan shipyard.

The relocation of the merged Jiangnan and Qiuxin shipyards from central Shanghai, where they were replaced by the World Exposition, to Changxing thus explains not only the break in destroyer construction, but also why the construction of minesweepers ceased after 2007. With everybody happily installed at Changxing, both construction lines have been re-opened.

Doesn’t that seem plausible?
 

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looks right to me. You can see the 052C (D????) right behind it in one of those pictures (look at the 2nd one, you can see destroyer bow to the right side)
 

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This new unit is getting built in JN shipyard. Actually, most of the photos from these coming days will be from JN shipyard.
 

franco-russe

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Thank you. I totally missed the destroyer, but actually one can distinguish the characteristic anchor hawses of a surface combatant fitted with bow sonar.
 

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Should not be too surprising, but the second minehunter that was under construction in JN shipyard has just been launched. With this photo, we can clearly see that it is in the same class as 804.
 

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