PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

charles18

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DF-26 is fine, but it only has around 4500-5000 kilometers of range.

The key for winning the Pacific War of the future is range. That means the further away you can deal a successful blow to the enemy naval and land assets, the better.
The PLA - Rocket Force will operate outside of China.
I believe the DF-26 is going to play a large role in a WW3 scenario.
The DF-26 does not have to be exclusively launched from mainland China.
It can also be launched from nations allied with China.
Furthermore it can also be launched from enemy territory gained by China......Interpret that as you wish because I will give no further explanation.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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The PLA - Rocket Force will operate outside of China.
I believe the DF-26 is going to play a large role in a WW3 scenario.
The DF-26 does not have to be exclusively launched from mainland China.
It can also be launched from nations allied with China.
Furthermore it can also be launched from enemy territory gained by China......Interpret that as you wish because I will give no further explanation.
In the Indian Ocean region, Pakistan would be a good candidate, as DF-26 stationed there can reliably target Diego Garcia. However, with the current civil-military political situation in Pakistan, I don't have high hopes for that to happen.

But which country is going to allow the PLARF to station DF-26s in the Pacific? As long as the PLA does not break out of the First Island Chain, nobody in the Pacific is going to defy the US - Not even the Solomon Islands.
 

ashnole

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Pakistan will never allow Chinese missiles on its soil especially when those missiles will be aimed at military facilities of America & its allies. People keep forgetting that Pakistan has always run on three As - Allah, Army, America. The Pakistani state as well as its army owes their entire existence to the Anglos lol. Same reason why Gwadar will never become a PLAN base. China is living in a fool's world if it thinks Pakistan is an ally.

China's only other hope, so far as Diego Garcia is concerned, is Myanmar but the missiles will have to overfly India so the entire thing looks a non-starter.
 

defenceman

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H20 could overfly Pakistan on way to attack DG and Pakistan could plausibly claim to be unable to detect or stop it. In much the same way as they were blissfully unaware that Osama bin Laden was living in their country for a decade.
Hi
pakistan can’t do anything over shooting it’s territory as the case
was during Clinton regime when they fired cruise missiles from Indian
Ocean over shooting Pakistani territory landed in Afghanistan chasing
OBL as some of these missiles been overlooked by pakistan also
when they landed in Pakistani territory near Afghanistan border
by the time H20 start flying, you can’t stop a super power
thank you
 

charles18

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But which country is going to allow the PLARF to station DF-26s in the Pacific? As long as the PLA does not break out of the First Island Chain, nobody in the Pacific is going to defy the US - Not even the Solomon Islands.
I agree
China needs to "break out of the First Island Chain" if it wishes to fulfill its ambitions and win the confidence of these small island nations out in the Pacific. Respect must be earned.

In December 2022. The Liaoning carrier performed a FON "Freedom of Navigation" run, passing by Guam, out in the 2nd island chain for the first time. This was big news.

By 2026 I expect the Type 003 Fujian carrier battle group to make a FON run passing by Hawaii, out in the 3rd island chain for the first time. By now FON runs out to the 2nd island chain will become so frequent it will be considered small news.

By 2029 I expect the Type 004 carrier battle group to make a FON run passing by California. China will have earned the confidence of these small island nations in the Pacific. A serious discussion can now be made of the placement of DF-26s. Like I said before, "The PLA - Rocket Force will operate outside of China." This will be critical to winning a future war in the Pacific.
 

charles18

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The key for winning the Pacific War of the future is range. That means the further away you can deal a successful blow to the enemy naval and land assets, the better.
More range is fine. The more the better.
In 2021 China demonstrated a FOB (fractional orbital bombardment) missile / rocket system with a HGV. Since this can orbit the planet technically it has "unlimited range". How's that for range, it doesn't get any better than "unlimited".
but...
How much is the cost? Now here's the problem. Such a weapon system may play a specialized role, but its cost prohibitiveness guarantees it will never play a large role in projecting power, unless there's some massive tech upgrade to drop the cost. Perhaps there will be an anti-ship variant in the future 10+ years from now, but that is just speculation.

I believe the DF-26 will play a large role because it is cheap enough to be mass produced in large quantity or at least sufficient quantity. It's range is not bad, definitely an improvement over the DF-21.
The key for winning the Pacific War of the future is to juggle 3 variables and find the right comprise between: cost, quantity, and range
 
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by78

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Here's another look at that containerized anti-ship missiles, this time with the control room exposed.

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A magazine illustration of containerized anti-ship missile system.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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A magazine illustration of containerized anti-ship missile system.

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Can be a very effective option for the modern day naval version of the "People's War" warfighting effort.

The bigger problem, though, is how to coordinate the distribution and stationing of these containerized AShMs (and the ships that carry them) in order for them to be in position for launching AShMs when the launch command is given.
 
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