PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

i think that one destroyer who will play the role of command center and a number of 022 FAC who will chase pirates will also do good job in golf aden.

I dont think China will send a FAC to the African waters. There would be some very involved logistics in preparing and sending a FAC to Africa.
 

kw64

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Why not send the LPD071, that one can carry plenty helicopters and some smaller crafts.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Why not send the LPD071, that one can carry plenty helicopters and some smaller crafts.

True..but is the 071 fully outfitted and trained? I don't know. Just because you have a ship does not mean it's ready to deploy. It takes some time to train a crew on a new ship.

Anyone know the status of the 071? I sure don't.:confused:
 

Finn McCool

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

This sort of reminds me of the Boxer Rebellion; all the European countries and the US all getting together to fight an "out of left field" threat that harms their interests in a far flung part of the world. It's somewhat ironic then that the Chinese are participating, but a good thing. It shows how far China has progressed, and I for one would really like to see China participate in any international action against the pirates.

However these Somali communities have some legitimate greivances. Their waters have been fished out and contaminated by foreigners taking advantage of the fact that there are no rules in Somali waters. The attacks started out as an attempt to fight that off, but now they're just for cash.

That doesn't justify piracy though. The world community should do something about these attacks. The US is far too overextended to take the lead role in a larger effort to deal with the "Somalia problem". I still think it would be a good idea to internationally recognize Somaliland, in order to build up that area of the country and thus help contain the chaos eminating from Somalia.
 

AssassinsMace

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

China sailor recalls pirate fight
The captain of a Chinese ship has told the BBC how he and his crew fought off a gang of armed Somali pirates with petrol bombs and water cannon.

Nine pirates boarded the Zhenhua 4 on Wednesday but were forced off the ship by Capt Peng Weiyuan and his crew after they mounted an unexpected fightback.

Helicopters from a multi-national force also took part in the four hour battle, which saw the pirates back down.

China has announced it is to send naval ships to combat piracy in the region.

Speaking by satellite phone from the Indian Ocean, Capt Peng told the Newshour programme on the BBC World Service that the pirates attacked the vessel using two speedboats.

"They opened fire, they wanted us to stop," he said.

'Very threatening'

"We had 27 crew members on the boat and we shouted at them saying 'go away', but they were very fast."

Capt Peng said he tried to manoeuvre his ship out of the way but eventually the pirates climbed aboard after putting ladders up the side of the Zhenhua 4.


"Seven pirates got on our ship and two remained on the speedboat. The seven that got on were very threatening," he said.

But instead of surrendering, the crew retreated to their living quarters, which overlook the deck.

"We had a lot of beer bottles and we made a lot of cocktail [petrol] bombs," said Capt Peng. "We were well prepared. We threw them at them.

"After the first attack they retreated but somehow they got very good weapons - anti-tank weapons - which they fired at us, and succeeded in coming up to our living quarters.

"They came to the first platform which is very close to our living quarters.

"We were locked inside and the door was very thick. They were shouting 'open the door'. So we climbed further up and we used everything to threaten them, bottles, petrol.

"Eventually we used high-pressure water cannon to shoot at them. They were also shooting at us and one bullet passed me about 10in (25cm) away.

"Eventually they retreated, they couldn't fight any more. There was smoke, there was fire."

Asked for shoes

The captain described how the defeated pirates made some unexpected requests as they prepared to leave the Zhenhua 4.

"The head of the pirates said 'stop, stop, we can't go on fighting any more. Let us go'. And I said: 'We will let you go. Leave our ship'."

Mr Peng said that the pirates then asked for shoes because they were barefoot and the deck was covered in broken glass.

Pairs of leather shoes were thrown to them and the pirates retreated - only to return a few minutes later asking for fuel for their speedboats.

Capt Peng added that while the fighting was going on helicopters appeared overhead and started firing at the pirates.

"They helped us succeed," he said.

On Thursday, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told journalists that preparations to dispatch naval vessels were under way.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says it will be the Chinese navy's first active deployment beyond the Pacific Ocean.

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There's an audio interview of the Captain on the webpage. It's pretty much verbatim of what said in the article except for the obvious excitement you feel from the captain going through this experience.

Simple cocktail bombs and broken glass against guns and RPGs...

Even with a naval presence, they can only really deter before they hijack a ship. The Saudi oil tanker and that vessel with the Russian tanks and arms are still being held by pirates. Once the pirates get on board it's really up to the crew what happens afterwards. So unless there are enough naval ships patrolling that you can walk across to and from Africa and Asia, it sounds simpler to just have an armed presence on those ships passing through. If they can, maybe the navies patrolling the region should just station a few soldiers on ships entering and then pick-up them up as they leave the area in question. There might not be enough of them for every ship, but once word gets around that armed soldiers maybe on board, it could be a deterrence.
 

crobato

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True..but is the 071 fully outfitted and trained? I don't know. Just because you have a ship does not mean it's ready to deploy. It takes some time to train a crew on a new ship.

Anyone know the status of the 071? I sure don't.:confused:


She's currently deployed with the South Seas Fleet right now, and appears to have been through some exercises.
 

King_Comm

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Zhenhua 4 is state owned, so shouldn't there be a political commissar on board who would have a gun?
 

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China Plans to Send Three Warships to Somalia to Combat Pirates

By Christian Schmollinger

Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China will send three warships to the waters offshore Somalia to fight pirates attacking vessels in the Gulf of Aden.

China’s Ministry of Defense will send two destroyers and a supply ship to the Gulf, the official Xinhua News Agency reported yesterday, citing Liu Jianchao, a Foreign Ministry spokesman. The vessels will depart from Sanya in China’s southern province of Hainan on Dec. 26.

Pirates in the area have increased attacks on ships using the Suez Canal, and vessels transporting oil from Sudan and Saudi Arabia to China. The United Nations on Dec. 16 authorized a resolution that allows governments to pursue the brigands into inland Somalia.

“Chinese naval vessels will strictly follow UN Security Council resolutions and international laws,” Xinhua cited Liu as saying.

Somali pirates have attacked about 120 boats in the region this year, seizing at least 40 vessels and collecting more than $120 million in ransoms. Some 20 percent of Chinese ships passing through the area between January and November were attacked by pirates, Xinhua reported.

China’s ships will join vessels from the European Union, which on Dec. 8 approved sending a naval force to the area, the 27-nation organization’s first such mission. They will patrol an area that is three times the size of France.

The pirates operate along Somalia’s Indian Ocean coast, as well as in the Gulf of Aden, a transit point for the 20,000 ships a year that use the Suez Canal.

Somalia is in its 18th year of a civil war that has forced more than 3 million people into exile and displaced at least 800,000. Its Western-backed government is fighting the Islamist al-Shabaab militia for control over the nation of 10 million people, a contest that may weigh on the effectiveness of today’s Security Council action.
 

UCSDAE

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Zhenhua 4 is a civilian vessel. You should really take that "commie" stereotype outta your head, political commissar isn't in everything and anything.

Even in the military, the political commissar provides more of a psychological counseling role than anything else. The highest command is still the officer, not the commissar.
 
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