PLAAF Munitions

styx

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I wanted to ask if there are any sources on the web that classify Chinese aerial weaponry, including GPS bombs, missiles, dispensers, guided bombs, etc., because right now I'm extremely confused
 

Godswill

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I wouldn't say that.

1. PL-15 is competitive or superior to AIM-120D variants, and the AIM-260 was developed partly informed by PL-15 as a response to it. We don't know if AIM-260 is comparable to PL-15 or if it may even be superior. However we do know that AIM-260 should have a AIM-120C/D footprint meaning it's a bit smaller than PL-15
2. PL-16 should have a smaller footprint than PL-15, but it should also be more capable than PL-15
3. PL-17 is a larger class of AAM than AIM-120D, PL-15 or AIM-260 or PL-16, both in terms of range and in terms of footprint.
- In terms of size/footprint (not necessarily capability only), PL-17 >>>> PL-15 > AIM-120C/D = AIM-260 = PL-16
By size/footprint you mean the overall size not the missile body right? IIRC, PL-16 is PL-15 with smaller fins.
 

Blitzo

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By size/footprint you mean the overall size not the missile body right? IIRC, PL-16 is PL-15 with smaller fins.

By size/footprint, I mean every aspect of the missile, including missile fuselage, fins etc.

We don't know what the PL-16 will be relative to PL-15 -- however considering the PL-15 comes in a folding fin variant (same missile fuselage as regular PL-15, but with folding fins), then I would be surprised if PL-16 directly reused the PL-15 missile fuselage but with just smaller fins, though such a possibility of course cannot be ruled out.


It is thus most correct to say "smaller footprint" than the standard PL-15 (non-folding fin variant) as all we definitively know about PL-16 is that J-20 and J-35 family should both respectively be able to carry six PL-16s internally versus four standard PL-15s.
 

zyklon

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Responding here as it's good form to not get too off topic in a flagship thread like the Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread.

Anti-radiation missiles modified from air-to-air missiles have been in service for a long time in PLAF. There are versions modified from both the pl-10 and pl-15. For any other ground target the seeker strategy employed by AAM's is entirely irrelevant.

Can you please tell us more about the ARMs derived from the PL-10 and PL-15 AAMs?

Guessing the same form factors, but bigger warheads, and seekers tailored to SEAD/DEAD missions?

Is the PL-15 derived ARM compatible with the J-20? If so, that may imply how the J-35 could be employed, assuming its IWB is indeed as long as the J-20's . . .
 

Tomboy

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Responding here as it's good form to not get too off topic in a flagship thread like the Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread.



Can you please tell us more about the ARMs derived from the PL-10 and PL-15 AAMs?

Guessing the same form factors, but bigger warheads, and seekers tailored to SEAD/DEAD missions?

Is the PL-15 derived ARM compatible with the J-20? If so, that may imply how the J-35 could be employed, assuming its IWB is indeed as long as the J-20's . . .
I don't think so, I believe PL-15 should be capable of anti-radiation stock. AESA seeker on the PL-15 and other modern radar guided missiles should have a passive mode to home in on radiation. The warhead although somewhat small should be able to disable and destroy delicate radar equipment.
 

qwerty3173

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The name is ld8 modified from pl10 and ld8a modified from pl15. Not very hard to find on the internet. Increased warhead size is unnecessary as radar apertures are just as fragile as aircraft and impossible to be armored.
Responding here as it's good form to not get too off topic in a flagship thread like the Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread.



Can you please tell us more about the ARMs derived from the PL-10 and PL-15 AAMs?

Guessing the same form factors, but bigger warheads, and seekers tailored to SEAD/DEAD missions?

Is the PL-15 derived ARM compatible with the J-20? If so, that may imply how the J-35 could be employed, assuming its IWB is indeed as long as the J-20's . . .
 

zyklon

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The name is ld8 modified from pl10 and ld8a modified from pl15. Not very hard to find on the internet. Increased warhead size is unnecessary as radar apertures are just as fragile as aircraft and impossible to be armored.

I recall reading about the LD-10 and LD-30 at some point or another, and had assumed them to be export oriented weapons systems, akin to the SD-10, given the designations.

So are the relevant PLAAF designations LD-8/A or something else?

I don't think so, I believe PL-15 should be capable of anti-radiation stock. AESA seeker on the PL-15 and other modern radar guided missiles should have a passive mode to home in on radiation. The warhead although somewhat small should be able to disable and destroy delicate radar equipment.

So does an ARM derivative of the PL-15 actually exist, or is it just a marketing gimmick for highlighting the PL-15's ability to accomplish anti-radiation missions as well as dedicated, clean sheet ARM designs?
 
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