PLA strike strategies in westpac HIC

4Tran

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Yep, and that's why they want a war in East Asia. So those industrial input can return to US.



At least Shenzhen can be targeted. Also Shanghai and Hongkong. China's biggest Shipyards are in Shanghai and Liaoning. Even if they can't reach Liaoning, but they can make Shanghai into a fishing port again. Also from South Korea, they can also reach Beijing and some Manchurian area with missiles.
Targeted with what exactly. Again, the US won't use ballistic missiles for this kind of attack, and everything else is going to struggle with the range. There's also no way for the Americans to base significant numbers of such weapons in Philippines or Japan.

Also, you seem to not understand what industrial inputs are. If the Americans could build their own substitutes they'd already do so. It's simply not possible to do so in the middle of a war.
 

Brainsuker

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It would take about 55-60,000 missiles to even strike every building in Shanghai. That's about 55-60 years of US missile production. Just to take out a single factory, about 20-30 missiles are required. And China has hundreds of thousands of factories. A single missile hitting a factory is not even enough to delay production for 8 hours.

During WW2, the allies dropped millions of tons of munitions on Germany per month, yet Germany industrial output grew every single year. Chinese industry today is 20-30 times larger than Germany industry of WW2, modern industry is about 10-20 times more resilient than WW2 era industry, and Chinese ability to rebuild using modern technology is 10-15 times more than what the Germans had available to WW2. And the US today cannot even deliver ordnance at 5% the rate at which the Allies delivered over German cities in WW2. Do some basic research before posting brain dead claims.

Well, I think 50.000 missiles are nothing to them (US). In Iraqi War and Afghanistan they waste more missiles than that.
 
Well, I think 50.000 missiles are nothing to them (US). In Iraqi War and Afghanistan they waste more missiles than that.
You know nothing about modern military system and hardware, just shut up already. How many of those missiles could actually penetrate Chinese AD? Zero. Subsonic cruise missiles and short range missiles are useless for the US. Only high end missiles of the maneuvering hypersonic variety will be able to even reach the coast.
 

Tomboy

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Only high end missiles of the maneuvering hypersonic variety will be able to even reach the coast.
That's just plain overconfidence, even normal BMs can't be intercepted with 100 percent certainty hence a saturated BM attack with large amount of missiles will definitly get 10-20 percent through like we saw with Israel.
 
That's just plain overconfidence, even normal BMs can't be intercepted with 100 percent certainty hence a saturated BM attack with large amount of missiles will definitly get 10-20 percent through like we saw with Israel.
I said subsonic cruise missiles and short range missiles didn't I? Now, how many conventional "normal BMs" with 1200+ mile range does US have?
 
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bebops

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Well, I think 50.000 missiles are nothing to them (US). In Iraqi War and Afghanistan they waste more missiles than that.

Most of them are truck bombs that fit into a B2 bomber. you know a B2 bomber could carry tens of thousand of bombs.

As for ballistic missiles, 50k is more than enough.
 

BasilicaLew

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Most of them are truck bombs that fit into a B2 bomber. you know a B2 bomber could carry tens of thousand of bombs.

As for ballistic missiles, 50k is more than enough.
bad thing though is most could be easily intercepted by sending something as crap as a J-7/6/5 to just shoot a couple 20 mm at it to send th cruise missiles down. and theres more than enough J-7/6/5's to cover the entire border. But at that point the operation costs might just be too much. like iran probably has like 2k of those shaheed drones but it doesn't matter because its so easy to shoot down, cruise missiles too
 

AndrewS

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Most of them are truck bombs that fit into a B2 bomber. you know a B2 bomber could carry tens of thousand of bombs.

As for ballistic missiles, 50k is more than enough.

Each B-2 does not carry "tens of thousand of bombs".

In addition, where would the US store and deploy 50k ballistic missiles?
 

AndrewS

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Well, I think 50.000 missiles are nothing to them (US). In Iraqi War and Afghanistan they waste more missiles than that.

The US used nowhere near 50,000 missiles in Iraq and Afghnistan.

They mainly used bombs (both dumb and guided) dropped at short range.
 
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