PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

AndrewS

Brigadier
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There is no radar - Chinese or otherwise, modern or vintage - that can live through a targeted US SEAD/DEAD campaign with hundreds of assets, like the one we saw. Nothing is surviving this.

I don't understand what we are even discussing.

Of course there will be trolls in social media that assert this raid means China radars are bad. Why are people getting triggered? If you have even a rudimentary understanding of how things work in real life, you know that this is not the case. And so do also the people that are actually involved in weapon procurement and acquisition around the world.

Grow a thicker skin and move on.

Or we could put it like this.

"There is no radar - American or otherwise, modern or vintage - that can live through a targeted Chinese SEAD/DEAD campaign with hundreds of assets, like the one we saw. Nothing is surviving this.
 

supersnoop

Colonel
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That's very likely what will happen. Maintenance for military assets is very demanding and expensive business, and if even the US cannot keep it up at a good standard, I doubt anyone else can aside from China.

It already has happened
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This was 4 years ago.
Mirages are old, poorly maintained, slow to get spares
F-16 are better maintained, but the A/Bs are 30 years old now

PLAAF also is using this attrition against JASDF
Only F-15J is long ranged enough to do intercepts, but they are 40 years old.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
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You'll need many helicopters just for mass transportation of troops and equipment inland efficiently not to mention other utilities that may arise during a AR. Also being on the frontline is quite literally the purpose of attack helicopters.

About 80-90% of the Taiwanese population lives within 30km of the Western Coastline.

There is no requirement for lots of helicopters for the mass transportation of Chinese troops inland
 

Tomboy

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All of them have been upgraded to V standard. As I said the real concern are the brand new F-16V not yet delivered. The upgraded ones have issues with power generation for AESA radar and the airframes themselves are too old for intense maneuvers.
Are the airframe too old? Reportedly this specific airframe has 3,894 hours which isn't that much considering the original F-16s were designed for 8,000 hours while there are also extension programs to further extend life to 12,000 hours or even more.
 

GulfLander

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All of them have been upgraded to V standard. As I said the real concern are the brand new F-16V not yet delivered. The upgraded ones have issues with power generation for AESA radar and the airframes themselves are too old for intense maneuvers.
US arms shipment backlog to Taiwan tops $20bn
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siegecrossbow

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Are the airframe too old? Reportedly this specific airframe has 3,894 hours which isn't that much considering the original F-16s were designed for 8,000 hours while there are also extension programs to further extend life to 12,000 hours or even more.

I was not aware of the hours for this specific airframe. Either way the brand new F-16V with uprated engine will allow the airframe to unlock its true potential. As is the F-16A/B upgrades are kinda lackluster both kinematically and in BVR.
 

HighGround

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Are the airframe too old? Reportedly this specific airframe has 3,894 hours which isn't that much considering the original F-16s were designed for 8,000 hours while there are also extension programs to further extend life to 12,000 hours or even more.
It's what the announcement said back in the day. I remember discussing it on r/LCD. Not only new frames, but the original F-16s being upgraded to the V standard for Taiwan. It's pretty impressive actually and one of their better procurement decisions.
 

AndrewS

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It's what the announcement said back in the day. I remember discussing it on r/LCD. Not only new frames, but the original F-16s being upgraded to the V standard for Taiwan. It's pretty impressive actually and one of their better procurement decisions.

Is the Taiwanese F-16V really one of the better procurement decisions?

It doesn't help the F-16s when they're sitting helpless on the ground.
Nor will it make much difference (if any) when facing significantly larger numbers of Chinese stealth fighters in the air
 

Puss in Boots

Junior Member
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Is the Taiwanese F-16V really one of the better procurement decisions?

It doesn't help the F-16s when they're sitting helpless on the ground.
Nor will it make much difference (if any) when facing significantly larger numbers of Chinese stealth fighters in the air
Taiwan's arms procurement program is essentially paying protection money to the United States while also generating hefty kickbacks for those in power; discussing the actual effectiveness of those weapons is meaningless.
 
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