What about the radars and Gun CIWS, which makes it very obvious they are military?
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What about the radars and Gun CIWS, which makes it very obvious they are military?
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I'm assuming they're going to be covered or camouflaged in some other way. They can probably all be in shipping boxes and the boxes can be breakaway style for when they need to be unleashed. If they need to be used, then the ship's position is compromised and it's a final fight for survival from then on so the cat's out of the bag and it doesn't need to look like a shipping freighter anymore.
Is this real? I didn't see a second one in the original photos.
There may be different configurations where they seek to hide/conceal their own identity to be a Q-ship of sorts, but as it stands this configuration we are seeing looks about as explicitly seeking to flag to everyone that they are a military vessel, as possible.
That is to say -- the whole purpose of this specific configuration is to not conceal that they are trying to be a freighter, but to make it obvious it is a commercial ship requisitioned for military use.
Okay yeah, that's pretty crazy, crazier than German auxiliary cruisers per Yankee for sure.
Yet it's very Chinese, like in Supernova Era there's that similar idea where PRC left its descendants a mega ICBM for when SHTF after the apocalypse.
If these are really for that use case then I suppose after these tests are done and proven to work start looking for those containers stored in those nuclear proof underground parking lots under shopping centres at costal cities.
To be fair even in Xi Yazhou's video he said even though the reasoning behind the project was for a post-exchange world, it doesn't mean all the less wild use cases people have thought up this week are not valid. If there's a need for auxiliary cruiser PLAN can just go "aha we did an extreme 底线思维/bottom line thinking project similar to this and we can just reuse the hardware for that instead".
Xi Yazhou also had another good point: you can't wish for the other guy to be civilised and respect merchant shipping neutrality out of good of his heart. The threat of unrestricted submarine warfare has to be countered with something equally as disruptive. Only then, perhaps the two sides will realize how harmful it would be and don't resort to it in times of war. Reasoning about the harm diplomatically won't be convincing, only demonstrating a deterrence capability is convincing. A sort of Dark Forest of the ocean.
Why do people have to conjure up all sort of crazy theories for this? This thing makes great military and logistical sense, it is the best implementation of the so called distributed firepower concept.
Utilizing China's manufacturing prowess, anything that can be standardized and procured in large quantities is going to be extremely cost effective. God knows how much these missiles would cost if they're produced in automated fashion, those modules are going to be dirt cheap. That means you can deploy large number of those system anywhere you want.
This is uniquely China's superpower, even if US wants to copy the idea they can't even afford to fill those vls at scale.
Also these aren't regular warship, you can stockpile modules in peacetime, in wartime you use them to convert large number of cargo ships without the need to train new crews as these systems are going to be controlled via network. The crew just need to steer the ship. So you have combat ready forces that are essentially maintenance free and has no training requirement.
Any consideration of camouflaged surprised attacks with these is secondary at best, nice if they can pull it off but not important in overall picture.
Utilizing China's manufacturing prowess, anything that can be standardized and procured in large quantities is going to be extremely cost effective. God knows how much these missiles would cost if they're produced in automated fashion, those modules are going to be dirt cheap. That means you can deploy large number of those system anywhere you want.
This is uniquely China's superpower, even if US wants to copy the idea they can't even afford to fill those vls at scale.
Also these aren't regular warship, you can stockpile modules in peacetime, in wartime you use them to convert large number of cargo ships without the need to train new crews as these systems are going to be controlled via network. The crew just need to steer the ship. So you have combat ready forces that are essentially maintenance free and has no training requirement.
Any consideration of camouflaged surprised attacks with these is secondary at best, nice if they can pull it off but not important in overall picture.
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With lasers power supply and cooling will be more challenging for a converted civilian ship.
Edit: didn't see this was already posted oops
They put another 1130 CIWS on the container ship. It seems like a land-based variant (LD-3000)
Seems like the ship is quite experimental/developmental
They put another 1130 CIWS on the container ship. It seems like a land-based variant (LD-3000)
Seems like the ship is quite experimental/developmental
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