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Gloire_bb

Major
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Since containerized generators are already a thing, it should be fairly straightforward to get more power.

What I find amusing is that one of these things has more fire power than a P-15B DDG
P-15 is frigate in all but name.
But there's little to be amused about - it has more firepower than 052C, and in fact than 052D as well(60 strike cells v 16+48).
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
This is basically the arsenal ship people have speculated on. Only this way you can load up dozens of "stealth" arsenal ships on the cheap and spend a relative pittance to network it all with the PLAN. China's commercial shipbuilding yards can pump these out at a similar rate to USN warships being built. UVLS and missiles are cheap relative to a typical 055's sensors. Arsenal ships never made sense unless you can procure them quickly and cheaply like this.

IAD and anti ship ballistic missile launch pad. Better than that, potentially able to sail around undetected or at least be extremely resource demanding to track.

This is far beyond a mere arsenal ship. Just the VLS containers and a CEC datalink module is all you need for an arsenal ship.

This is essentially 80% of the combat capability of a full ledged warship with its own full sensor and self defence suites. There could even be a containerised CIC module in the there for all we know.

If they actually expand on this concept, it’s kinda hilarious to think of the kind of shenanigans they can get up to.

Imagine taking a bigger container ship, drop some drone control containers onboard and you have a drone mass carrier. Extend that a tiny bit more by taking some of the truly monstrous bulk carriers and dropping a full length angled runway on top with EMALs and you have yourself a de facto light carrier.

If you want to go the other way, imagine if they just covered one of these container ships with full length Type730/1130 and HQ10 modules. Pair a few of these shield ships with all warships and your warships are basically immune to enemy conventional missile attacks now.
 

Temstar

Brigadier
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Of course you can add in additional power generation capacity, but that creates additional logistical requirements (even something basic like topping the generator up with fuel can be a limiting factor, since storing and moving barrels of diesel on deck is not as easy as it sounds on an underway ship at sea) and potentially also operational limits (how much pitch and yaw movement can those generators handle while running?).
The diesel fuel tank could just be a container too:
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sheogorath

Colonel
Registered Member
Of course you can add in additional power generation capacity, but that creates additional logistical requirements (even something basic like topping the generator up with fuel can be a limiting factor, since storing and moving barrels of diesel on deck is not as easy as it sounds on an underway ship at sea) and potentially also operational limits (how much pitch and yaw movement can those generators handle while running?).

In theory, you should be able to use the ship's own fuel filling system to tap into the ships own fuel tank since they can pump fuel out just as well as it can pump in. Another alternative would be to have containerized fuel tanks connected to the generators though it has its own problems, obviously.
 

votran

Junior Member
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Don’t over do it. At the current rate you are liable to become obese from all the copium.
lol reading those copium comment from westerner on x and reddit make me laugh , they said if china do it , then it fair game for US to sink any china-link merchant/civilian ship .

as if they think attack all civilians merchant ship they deem as threat gonna be easy and make the world side with them lmao

they seem to forgot main goal of this trick is to lure them attack any civilian ship they seem as threat to turn the whole world again them as well lol

lure enemy attack civilian target in mass first = key tactics in unrestricted warfare .
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
Registered Member
This is basically the arsenal ship people have speculated on. Only this way you can load up dozens of "stealth" arsenal ships on the cheap and spend a relative pittance to network it all with the PLAN. China's commercial shipbuilding yards can pump these out at a similar rate to USN warships being built. UVLS and missiles are cheap relative to a typical 055's sensors. Arsenal ships never made sense unless you can procure them quickly and cheaply like this.

IAD and anti ship ballistic missile launch pad. Better than that, potentially able to sail around undetected or at least be extremely resource demanding to track.

The limitation wouldn't be Chinese shipyard capacity. There are already hundreds of small containerships that would be suitable and it's a matter of loading up the containers and then doing cabling and piping
 

bsdnf

Senior Member
Registered Member
lol reading those copium comment from westerner on x and reddit make me laugh , they said if china do it , then it fair game for US to sink any china-link merchant/civilian ship .

as if they think attack all civilians merchant ship they deem as threat gonna be easy and make the world side with them lmao

they seem to forgot main goal of this trick is to lure them attack any civilian ship they seem as threat to turn the whole world again them as well lol

lure enemy attack civilian target in mass first = key tactics in unrestricted warfare .
The thing is, the US military had been planning to do this for a while; they have no moral high ground whatsoever.
 

votran

Junior Member
Registered Member
The thing is, the US military had been planning to do this for a while; they have no moral high ground whatsoever.
they can't do it today . their empire build on the rep of them being good guy , world police keep sea trade safe for large part of the world

another problem for them is once war with china start every merchant container ship will fly any other flag than china (include china's armed "civilian ship")

to make matter worst in wartime , they can't afford to spare a massive cost/resource/man power to board and check every single merchant ship to make sure they don't shot the wrong one .

they must choice one option between 2 poison :

letting their hard to replace warship/sub at risk or attack all civilians ship show up 1000km around their force . that gonna piss off alot of nations
 
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