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Formal challenges have occurred, such as telling us that we're entering 'China's territorial waters'," a Defence figure familiar with the interactions said: First-ever AU FONOP or HMAS Parramatta sailed through Taiwan Strait?
HMAS Parramatta was closely tracked by Chinese military assets including a Type 052C "Luyang II" guided-missile destroyer and a Type 093-A "Shang II" nuclear-powered attack submarine.
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Formal challenges have occurred, such as telling us that we're entering 'China's territorial waters'," a Defence figure familiar with the interactions said: First-ever AU FONOP or HMAS Parramatta sailed through Taiwan Strait?

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Great.

Let me quote one of the sentences:
Since departing Australia in late May, the ANZAC-class frigate has travelled to Vietnam and South Korea and then on to Japan via the South China and East China Seas as part of a "regional presence deployment" which has included several joint military exercises with other navies.

Thanks for providing a precedent, Australia!

China should also conduct her own "regional presence deployment" by sailing PLAN warships into the Solomon Sea on a regular basis, and position their warships right in between the Solomon Islands and Australia. Better still if the PLAN warships could do friendly port visits to Honaira.

This should send a "You better don't touch my little brother Solomon. Remember that my eyes are always on you!" message to Canberra.
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Or even better, China should also sail her PLAN warships right through the Coral Sea and Tasman Sea, then make port visits to New Zealand. This is considering that out of the Five Eyes, New Zealand is still the most China-friendly among all other Sinophobic members.

Such port visits to Wellington can also give an up-yours to Canberra, which is convenient as Australia had just rejected China's 4 fundemental demands for repairing Sino-Australian relations.
 

wssth0306

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Oh yeah, I think you're right the navy blue does seem to be a different variant to the Type 21. It could be a working uniform instead of a combat uniform like the Type 21.

Though I think it still bears reiterating the PLAN, unlike other navies hasn't had separate 'working uniforms' with their Type 07 which has always been the singular Ocean pattern across all spectrums within the PLAN. No woodland, nor any other variant.

Also, unlike the USN's NWU vs FRV, for instance, we don't know if this navy blue uniform is flame-resistant either. Like the NWU, the Type 21 certainly isn't.

While it makes sense for other navies to have separate uniforms for different tasks/stations, this hasn't been the case for the PLAN with their Type 07, which they have since transitioned to the navy blue, which was introduced first, and now onto the Type 21 Woodland concurrently from the looks of it. So I'm not sure what you mean by "mid-transition" with some sailors still retaining their old Type 07 when none of them in the video wears it anymore.

We also have photos of ship-bound officers wearing the Type 21 Woodland, in conjunction with others wearing the navy blue in the same setting. So this rationale of separate uniforms for on ship and on land purposes again seems pretty thin IMO.

So I think the point still stands in terms of just under what circumstance would an officer wear the navy blue or the Type 21 Woodland, and thus far there still has been no solid indication as to the reasoning behind the different uniform choice beyond mere speculation at this point when, once again, there didn't used to be such a choice at all with the Type 07.
Mid transition as in , during this period it might be chaotic then when the final intention has been realized .
I agree with you , that any thing right now is speculation , but during the transition from the type 07 to 21 it will be even harder to guess , cause during the same clip they might cut in the clip from pre transition with clips post transition there for creating the feeling of 3 uniforms were used on the ship at the same time.
 

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Great.

Let me quote one of the sentences:


Thanks for providing a precedent, Australia!

China should also conduct her own "regional presence deployment" by sailing PLAN warships into the Solomon Sea on a regular basis, and position their warships right in between the Solomon Islands and Australia. Better still if the PLAN warships could do friendly port visits to Honaira.

This should send a "You better don't touch my little brother Solomon. Remember that my eyes are always on you!" message to Canberra.
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Or even better, China should also sail her PLAN warships right through the Coral Sea and Tasman Sea, then make port visits to New Zealand. This is considering that out of the Five Eyes, New Zealand is still the most China-friendly among all other Sinophobic members.

Such port visits to Wellington can also give an up-yours to Canberra, which is convenient as Australia had just rejected China's 4 fundemental demands for repairing Sino-Australian relations.
Even the Solomon Islands are 2,000km away from Australia, and the Aussies act like the Chinese are stepping onto their front porch.

Better tit-for-tat for China would be to sail through the Bass Strait between Tasmania and Victoria, then they'll know what it feels like for China to have foreign warships yo-yoing up and down the Taiwan Strait -

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A few hilarious excerpts -

[...]

If Australia can own 200-kilometre-wide Bass Strait, why can't China own the Taiwan Strait?

Actually, most of Bass Strait doesn't belong to Australia. China could send an aircraft carrier with a bunch of destroyers through it, if it liked, because a global agreement on maritime territory says so.

If we sent so much as a navy dinghy through the Taiwan Strait, we could probably expect another round of trade sanctions from Beijing.

[...]

But all this cuts both ways. If we can go close to China, China can come close to us.

The huffing and puffing we see in the media when a Chinese warship approaches Australia is sheer nonsense. Such vessels have a perfect right to be there.

Peter Dutton made a hypocrites of us when he objected to the arrival of Chinese intelligence ship Haiwangxing off WA just before the election. As defence minister at the time, he called this an "aggressive act" - just the sort of language that China uses when telling other countries to clear off.

[...]

A Chinese ship would, in fact, be quite entitled to sit off the end of the runway of our main fighter base, RAAF Williamtown, at Newcastle, happily collecting radio signals.

But I bet we wouldn't try doing that off a Chinese airbase.

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Formal challenges have occurred, such as telling us that we're entering 'China's territorial waters'," a Defence figure familiar with the interactions said: First-ever AU FONOP or HMAS Parramatta sailed through Taiwan Strait?

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Don't understand why this is that big of a deal? Australia is doing something that's legal and china is following them. It's not any different than china circling around Japan and getting followed by the Japanese.

If china wants to assert itself, 055 and spy ship can take long deployment around Australia and have helicopters look for Australian submarines. There is no reason that china cannot do it's own freedom of navigation operations.
 

Helius

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The navies of China and Pakistan concluded a four-day joint maritime exercise codenamed Sea Guardians-2 on July 13. They held drills including attacking at maritime targets, anti-submarine operations, as well as anti-aircraft and anti-missile operations.

During the maneuvers, operation planning, professional expertise exchanges, and cultural and sports competitions also took place.

"The biggest feature of the joint drill is cooperation. China and Pakistan have conducted joint operational planning, tactical consultation and professional exchanges, as well as joint anti-submarine operations, anti-aircraft and anti-missile operations and mutual rescue of battle losses against the background of actual combat. The two sides have increased mutual trust, deepened friendship and enhanced joint combat capabilities through sharing combat situation, information and support," said Chen Youzhu, commander of the joint warship fleet.
 
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