PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems


Sleepyjam

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FN-6 and Stingers are not designed to do much more than harass slow and terrain hugging fighters/attackers and helicopters. Now smaller cheaper UAVs that just somehow happen to be within range like quadcopter recon types. Why are you guys talking like they're used to intercept missiles/bombs?

Manpads are useful missiles but they're not for intercepting fast moving targets.
He made the claim that stingers are effective against mass cruise missile strikes, beats me
 

Japhethsdecendent

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He made the claim that stingers are effective against mass cruise missile strikes, beats me
Obviously only mass stingers can stop mass cruise missiles at best, please stop with the ridiculous statements. You asked originally what was teh current answer the US has to cruise missiles, I really don't understand that question it's much the same as many other nations on the missile front but the drone question is more interesting.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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The author was not a mere journalist, he is director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program. I never made claims about the performance of Chinese missiles unlike you did with the patriot. I never claimed anything about j11 and su27 so dont lie. How is hq9 based s-300 care to provide proof or evidence? How are they similar or basically the same? Lol so you said fn6 imitated stinger but provides no proof and can’t find evidence even on wiki.
If you can't see the resemblance and look at the timing and patterns from other systems I can't just give you common sense nor is it my job to. As to your original question here is part of the drone solution,
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Japhethsdecendent

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FN-6 and Stingers are not designed to do much more than harass slow and terrain hugging fighters/attackers and helicopters. Now smaller cheaper UAVs that just somehow happen to be within range like quadcopter recon types. Why are you guys talking like they're used to intercept missiles/bombs?

Manpads are useful missiles but they're not for intercepting fast moving targets.
Define fast moving. Stingers are part of current and future shorad plans so at least sub sonic cruise missiles are a target. Here from the companies website.
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It didn't take me long to find.
 

ougoah

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Define fast moving. Stingers are part of current and future shorad plans so at least sub sonic cruise missiles are a target. Here from the companies website.
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It didn't take me long to find.
Wasn't aware the manpad version was capable of intercepting cruise missiles, assuming subsonic ones. The vehicle mounted ones may? It would need some sort of search track and fire control radar/s so I was thinking manpad stinger and FN-6.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Are you saying HQ9 is the copy of S-300 Far from it In Turkey missile competition in 2013 FD2000 a dumb down version of HQ-9 score perfect score of 5 missile 5 hit beating patriot, Aster 30 and S-300
But because pressure from US and EU and Chinese refusal to give the source , in the contract was scuttled
 

ougoah

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Well he's sort of right from his own perspective. The first HQ-9 was heavily influenced by the S-300PMU and most of it was a direct copy. China eventually changed the radars units a little and @Tam should be able to explain more of the details since he's familiar. Since then, the HQ-9 series have evolved to become something quite different from where the S-300 evolved, S-400.

Without PLA buying and reverse engineering S-300, the first HQ-9 (or whatever PLA's long range SAM would be called) would likely be something very different. Even the missiles were nearly identical when the "family line" branched off. Not sure why this is important though.
 

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