siegecrossbow

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Enclave appreciation post:

1) Doesn’t TACO against China/SeeSeePee.
2) Actually America First and doesn’t outsource American jobs.
3) Doesn’t diddle children.
4) Goes ahead and actually invades/occupies Canada instead of bragging about it on social media like a little bitch.
5) Actually drives technological innovations instead of dumping money in shit coins.
6) Doesn’t tolerate insider trading.
7) President goes down with the Poseidon Oil Rig when the tough gets going instead of blaming everyone else and their moms for his failure.

Feel free to add more.

 
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Aniah

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Enclave appreciation post:

1) Doesn’t TACO against China/SeeSeePee.
2) Actually America First and doesn’t outsource American jobs.
3) Doesn’t diddle children.
4) Go ahead and actually invades/occupies Canada instead of bragging about it on social media like a little bitch.
5) Actually drives technological innovations instead of dumping money in shit coins.
6) Doesn’t tolerate insider trading.
7) President goes down with the Poseidon Oil Rig when the tough gets going instead of blaming everyone else and their moms for his failure.

Feel free to add more.

Bonus points: They are actually one of the more fun enemies to kill, especially late game.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Enclave appreciation post:

1) Doesn’t TACO against China/SeeSeePee.
2) Actually America First and doesn’t outsource American jobs.
3) Doesn’t diddle children.
4) Go ahead and actually invades/occupies Canada instead of bragging about it on social media like a little bitch.
5) Actually drives technological innovations instead of dumping money in shit coins.
6) Doesn’t tolerate insider trading.
7) President goes down with the Poseidon Oil Rig when the tough gets going instead of blaming everyone else and their moms for his failure.

Feel free to add more.


Bonus points: They are actually one of the more fun enemies to kill, especially late game.

8) They have good loot.
 

Aniah

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Now that season 2 of the show ended, what are y'all's thoughts? Like it, hate it?

There are a lot of lore drops that are very interesting, and it seems that season 3 will either be a continues build up of the faction powers or it will cut straight to the faction free-for-all battle that this season built up.

I'm excited to see what more lore will be dropped in season 3 and how all this will affect the story and location of Fallout 5. I still think west coast is likely where Fallout 5 will be heading, but down south is also just as likely.
 

uguduwa

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For me Coop‘s/Ghoul‘s story has been the best.

Series seems to have some continuity problems. At the beginning, Hank despite being from the Enclave doesn‘t know what‘s going on in their neughboring vaults that Moldaver managed to infiltrate easily. Even if Moldaver and Hank didn‘t meet, I would have guessed that Hank at least know everyone in the management to know that Moldaver is not one of them.

The other problem is the world seems to be too small. Somehow this small group of people keeps bumbing into each other be it pre war or post war.
 

siegecrossbow

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Caesar’s Legion Appreciation Post:

1) Doesn’t diddle children.
2) In fact they nail child diddlers and other degenerates to crosses.
3) Zero tolerance for drug trafficking/usage.
4) Restored true law and order to the parts of the Wasteland they’ve conquered.
5) Lead by someone who actually reads and understands Hegelian Dialectics.
6) Leadership engages in melee combat against foes with high-power firearms instead of dodging the draft with bogus bone spurs claim.
7) Backs up currency with physical gold instead of promoting bogus meme coins.
8) Leadership recognizes talent and willing to forgive any past transgressions to recruit said talent.
9) Unites 87 tribes instead of dividing a nation based on petty party politics.

 

Aniah

Senior Member
Registered Member
Caesar’s Legion Appreciation Post:

1) Doesn’t diddle children.
2) In fact they nail child diddlers and other degenerates to crosses.
3) Zero tolerance for drug trafficking/usage.
4) Restored true law and order to the parts of the Wasteland they’ve conquered.
5) Lead by someone who actually reads and understands Hegelian Dialectics.
6) Leadership engages in melee combat against foes with high-power firearms instead of dodging the draft with bogus bone spurs claim.
7) Backs up currency with physical gold instead of promoting bogus meme coins.
8) Leadership recognizes talent and willing to forgive any past transgressions to recruit said talent.
9) Unites 87 tribes instead of dividing a nation based on petty party politics.

Eh... I like Caesar's Legion, but they are extremist in both sides, unironically. For every good thing they have, like military discipline, anti-corruption, etc., etc., they do things like;

- Practice & usage of slaves.
- Poor treatment of women.
- Using plant-based medicine & drugs despite saying they don't use drugs.
- Wiping out many clans and groups.
- Anyone not wiped out is to be enslaved or wiped out at a later time. (White Legs & The Khan if you go for the legion ending)
- Burned, thrown off a cliff, and sent assassins against one of their most qualified general because he was forced to fight an unwinnable fight against the NCR at the dam because spears vs guns wins 0/10 times every day of the week.
- The usage of guns despite their dislike of them.
- The fact that the legion literally goes under if Caesar himself dies.

I like the Legion, I really do, but there's a good reason why both in the game, lore, and the TV show go to length to show that they will fall.

But hey, at least they are better than the Enclave.
 

Randomuser

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Registered Member
Eh... I like Caesar's Legion, but they are extremist in both sides, unironically. For every good thing they have, like military discipline, anti-corruption, etc., etc., they do things like;

- Practice & usage of slaves.
- Poor treatment of women.
- Using plant-based medicine & drugs despite saying they don't use drugs.
- Wiping out many clans and groups.
- Anyone not wiped out is to be enslaved or wiped out at a later time. (White Legs & The Khan if you go for the legion ending)
- Burned, thrown off a cliff, and sent assassins against one of their most qualified general because he was forced to fight an unwinnable fight against the NCR at the dam because spears vs guns wins 0/10 times every day of the week.
- The usage of guns despite their dislike of them.
- The fact that the legion literally goes under if Caesar himself dies.

I like the Legion, I really do, but there's a good reason why both in the game, lore, and the TV show go to length to show that they will fall.

But hey, at least they are better than the Enclave.
I know in NV there's a lot of cut content. But fact is for most players there little incentive to side with them over NCR. These guys don't get along with most factions and will not allow any negotiations. So if you are good with BOS, you're gonna have to pick. Let's not forget NCR offers better rewards and infrastructure.

NCR's ultimate strength is they can be persuaded to let a lot of stuff slide. Sadly this also can lead to corruption.
 

siegecrossbow

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Eh... I like Caesar's Legion, but they are extremist in both sides, unironically. For every good thing they have, like military discipline, anti-corruption, etc., etc., they do things like;

- Practice & usage of slaves.
- Poor treatment of women.
- Using plant-based medicine & drugs despite saying they don't use drugs.
- Wiping out many clans and groups.
- Anyone not wiped out is to be enslaved or wiped out at a later time. (White Legs & The Khan if you go for the legion ending)
- Burned, thrown off a cliff, and sent assassins against one of their most qualified general because he was forced to fight an unwinnable fight against the NCR at the dam because spears vs guns wins 0/10 times every day of the week.
- The usage of guns despite their dislike of them.
- The fact that the legion literally goes under if Caesar himself dies.

I like the Legion, I really do, but there's a good reason why both in the game, lore, and the TV show go to length to show that they will fall.

But hey, at least they are better than the Enclave.
If you guys think I’m glazing the Enclave or Legion you’ve missed the point entirely.
 
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