Official Fallout Thread
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I just finished it. It's very... okay.
Season 2 really felt like the writers room was entirely staffed by people who needed the paycheck. Lucy's entire arc is just a stop-and-go of game references and fan service while never doing anything of real consequence: the Legion slave dies, Cooper survives, the meatbots stay meatbots, and her father "dies".
Then you have the various character subplots that all amount to basically nothing. Maximus returns to exile, Vault 33 is still in chaos, Cooper's family is still missing/dead, House stays "dead", Norm never learns the truth, Hank fails his objective, and Lucy doesn't save Hank. It's not even a tearjerker style of "everything goes to shit" ending, it just ends without anyone accomplishing anything that advances the plot. Unless you consider more "mystery box" questions getting added last minute.
My biggest gripe was the relentless use of "what a twist!"
- East Coast BoS knows about Area 51, what a twist!
- The Strip is overrun by Deathclaws, what a twist!
- Cooper's wife wasn't evil, what a twist!
- The Congresswoman was enslaved, what a twist!
- The NCR Capital City was destroyed but their army lives, what a twist!
- Caesar's Legion looked to be a couple hundred but are really over a thousand, what a twist!
- Steph is actually a Canadian, hates Americans but joined the Enclave, and is Lucy's mom. What a twist, what twist, what a twist!
As much as I complain about it, I was legitimately entertained enough to watch the whole season. But it was very much "background TV" and I doubt I'll rewatch it any time soon.
The show isn't designed for people who are obsessed about Fallout lore since they are no longer the core audience. Its just for people who want to see a post apocalyptic world theme park that doesn't require too much thinking.
I went in hoping for a lot more New Vegas related content but was sorely disappointed. All the references were very superficial and retconned or rendered pointless a lot of potential player decisions within the game.
That said, many moments really shone though, like the pre-War confrontation between Cooper and House and NCR Veteran Ranger obliterating deathclaws with an AMR. However, for every good moment you got 10-15 minutes of pointless shit like invest support group in Vault 33.
PS I thought the Steph reveal was peak not so much because of the writing but the current geopolitical climate and the fandom for “Nate the Rake” after Emil’s Twitter retcons in 2024.
I watched season 1 again after it was uploaded on Youtube. I can‘t help but notice the crazy amount of plot holes.
Like I said in my previous post, how was it possible that Hank didn‘t know that Moldaver wasn‘t an overseer when all the overseers in the 3 vaults are supposed to be communicating.
Where were the security guards in the vault when the raiders came in.
How did Moldaver survive 200 years, became a top official in NCR AND become a feared raider. Is this woman immortal?
Then we go into season 2.
Lucy who got a huge dose reality and had to shoot her own mother is again back to being a naive vault dweller. I hope they don‘t make another twist and say that Lucy is Steph‘s daughter.
Why did Enclave want Hank to give them cold fusion, when Enclave controls Vault Tec.
We learn that Wilzig is also from the pre-war era dn the congresswoman is still around. Is this entire world populated by like 30 people?
I would say, Cooper is carrying the show right now. He went from a cynical lone wolf into somewhat resembling his past self like he trusted Maximus with his life, helped Lucy against Hank and helped NCR against the Legion.
Like I said in my previous post, how was it possible that Hank didn‘t know that Moldaver wasn‘t an overseer when all the overseers in the 3 vaults are supposed to be communicating.
Where were the security guards in the vault when the raiders came in.
How did Moldaver survive 200 years, became a top official in NCR AND become a feared raider. Is this woman immortal?
Then we go into season 2.
Lucy who got a huge dose reality and had to shoot her own mother is again back to being a naive vault dweller. I hope they don‘t make another twist and say that Lucy is Steph‘s daughter.
Why did Enclave want Hank to give them cold fusion, when Enclave controls Vault Tec.
We learn that Wilzig is also from the pre-war era dn the congresswoman is still around. Is this entire world populated by like 30 people?
I would say, Cooper is carrying the show right now. He went from a cynical lone wolf into somewhat resembling his past self like he trusted Maximus with his life, helped Lucy against Hank and helped NCR against the Legion.
They seriously need to incorporate a similar unit for a Chinese faction in the games. This is just screams Fallout.
solarz
Brigadier
No, that's a Kriegsman, but then Fallout ripped off a lot of WH40K stuff.
Yeah NCR Veteran Ranger outfit is pretty much the same as Kriegsman.
I just think that the gas mask outfit fits really well with the Fallout aesthetic. Since Bethesda figured out horses for Skyrim it shouldn’t be too hard to incorporate this.
solarz
Brigadier
Now that you mention it, horses would have been very appropriate for NV, too bad the engine couldn't handle it back then.
Slightly off topic, but relevant to this, Todd Howard had an interview a few days ago where he came out and confirmed that The Elder Scrolls 6 won't be using the Creation Engine 2 that powered Starfield, but will be moving on to Creation Engine 3. Starfield had a pretty well-done (IMO) vehicle system, and The Elder Scrolls 6, being on an even more advanced engine, should also have some pretty decent horse mechanics.
That being said, I think there's a good chance Fallout 5 might be on the Creation Engine 4. If so, I expect vehicles to include both rideable animals and general vehicles. Hopefully, our own vertibird this time around. You could ride dragons in Skyrim, so this shouldn't be impossible, especially ona newer engine.