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antiterror13

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CottageLV said:
I'm very surprised that China is actually able to make it. SMEE, Shanghai Micro-Ecletronic Equipment LTD, is actually able to make them. Although only at 90nm, a decade behind western counterpart, it is still impressive.
As a Chinese, I'm happy knowing it.
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Any source ?

90nm is not bad at all, is there any other country apart from the USA and Japan and perhaps the UK, France and Germany able to indigenously produce 90nm chip ?

My old computer powered by Athlon 64X2 (90nm), can do most things, Vista, 4GB, Office 2010, etc, etc
 
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CottageLV said:
I'm very surprised that China is actually able to make it. SMEE, Shanghai Micro-Ecletronic Equipment LTD, is actually able to make them. Although only at 90nm, a decade behind western counterpart, it is still impressive.
As a Chinese, I'm happy knowing it.
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What about Taiwan?. Especially TSMC where im sure the tech ability will rub off on to China

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Taiwan's Semiconductor Industry to Become World's Largest in 2011

Taiwan's market is set to surpass Japan's, boasting a YoY growth of over 36 percent in 2010.

TAIPEI, TAIWAN - Taiwan is poised to overtake Japan in 2011 as the world's largest semiconductor materials market, according to data from SEMI (Semiconductor Equipment and Materials International). The global trade organization also said Taiwan's market grew from US$6.87 billion in 2009 to an estimated US$9.11 billion in 2010, representing a growth rate of 36.2%.

Data shows that the global semiconductor material market rose 25 percent last year from the previous year to a value of US$43.55 billion. That represented a new high since 2007, when it recorded US$42.67 billion.

Amid this growth, Taiwan's government is taking steps to improve the competitiveness of the domestic chip industry, which accounts for nearly half of the market capitalization on the Taiwan Stock Exchange (TSE). Taiwan's National Science Council (NSC) has been fostering ties between universities, research organizations and semiconductor companies to develop new technologies to enhance the island's technological edge in the market.

Taiwan's National Chip Implementation Center (CIC), for one, has announced a new method of fabricating chips that cuts development time by two-thirds while also slashing costs in half. The new technology stacks chip modules on top of each other, thereby enabling higher density of electronic components on a circuit board. The new method could lead to smaller mobile devices. NSC has called Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) - the world's biggest chipmaker - a key investment partner in the new technology, which TSMC Chairman Morris Chang has referred to as a paradigm shift.

TSMC posted NT$36.28 billion (roughly US$1.2 billion) in net profit in the first quarter of 2011. Morgan Stanley said the firm's better-than-expected first quarter earnings reflected its efforts in controlling operating expenses and maintaining its gross margin.

"Our thesis for investors is to take a more cautious stance on the foundry sector overall, but to overweigh TSMC on its significant exposure to smartphones and tablets," the brokerage said. "The fact is TSMC is outperforming peers, and communications is outpacing other sectors to give us more confidence in the thesis."

TSMC also recently said that it estimates the company's sales for 2011 will rise 20 percent from 2010 in U.S. dollar terms. In addition, the company said it also expected its sales for the second quarter would rise 3.4 percent to 5.3 percent from the first quarter.

In addition, TSMC has announced that it will double output capacity to an equivalent of over 20 million 200mm wafers in five years. It said that was to meet strong demands likely to be driven by three emerging directions guiding hi-tech industry developments. Those are human-machine interface, digital-media technologies and a quickly diversified environment.

Other major semiconductor firms in Taiwan include UMC (United Microelectronics Corporation) and Mediatek, which is a fabless semiconductor company.

With their focus on marketing, design, masking, production, testing, and packaging, Taiwan's semiconductor manufacturing firms have had a huge effect on the momentum of vertical disintegration in the global industry. What more, Taiwan exerts a strong influence over the Chinese semiconductor market. Therefore, global upstream materials firms all maintain an active presence in Taiwan, from where they can service the entire Asia Pacific market. TSMC
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The revenue of China's software and information technology (IT) service industry will increase at an annual growth rate of over 24.5 percent to exceed 4 trillion yuan (635 billion U.S. dollars) by 2015, under new projections.

Software exports will amount to 60 billion U.S. dollars by 2015, while the revenue of China's IT service sector is expected to top 2.5 trillion yuan, according to a development plan unveiled Friday by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology.

The research input of the country's 100 largest software companies will account for at least 10 percent of their revenues by 2015, according to the plan.

China is aiming to increase its focus on the software industry. The country will have more than 10 cities with software revenues exceeding 100 billion yuan and two to three software industrial zones with revenues topping 500 billion yuan by 2015, said the report.

The country's software and IT service industry saw revenues rise 32.4 percent year-on-year to 1.84 trillion yuan in 2011.
 
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bladerunner said:
What about Taiwan?. Especially TSMC where im sure the tech ability will rub off on to China

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Taiwan's Semiconductor Industry to Become World's Largest in 2011

Taiwan's market is set to surpass Japan's, boasting a YoY growth of over 36 percent in 2010.

TAIPEI, TAIWAN - Taiwan is poised to overtake Japan in 2011 as the world's largest semiconductor materials market, according to data from SEMI (Semiconductor Equipment and Materials International). The global trade organization also said Taiwan's market grew from US$6.87 billion in 2009 to an estimated US$9.11 billion in 2010, representing a growth rate of 36.2%.

Data shows that the global semiconductor material market rose 25 percent last year from the previous year to a value of US$43.55 billion. That represented a new high since 2007, when it recorded US$42.67 billion.

Amid this growth, Taiwan's government is taking steps to improve the competitiveness of the domestic chip industry, which accounts for nearly half of the market capitalization on the Taiwan Stock Exchange (TSE). Taiwan's National Science Council (NSC) has been fostering ties between universities, research organizations and semiconductor companies to develop new technologies to enhance the island's technological edge in the market.

Taiwan's National Chip Implementation Center (CIC), for one, has announced a new method of fabricating chips that cuts development time by two-thirds while also slashing costs in half. The new technology stacks chip modules on top of each other, thereby enabling higher density of electronic components on a circuit board. The new method could lead to smaller mobile devices. NSC has called Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) - the world's biggest chipmaker - a key investment partner in the new technology, which TSMC Chairman Morris Chang has referred to as a paradigm shift.

TSMC posted NT$36.28 billion (roughly US$1.2 billion) in net profit in the first quarter of 2011. Morgan Stanley said the firm's better-than-expected first quarter earnings reflected its efforts in controlling operating expenses and maintaining its gross margin.

"Our thesis for investors is to take a more cautious stance on the foundry sector overall, but to overweigh TSMC on its significant exposure to smartphones and tablets," the brokerage said. "The fact is TSMC is outperforming peers, and communications is outpacing other sectors to give us more confidence in the thesis."

TSMC also recently said that it estimates the company's sales for 2011 will rise 20 percent from 2010 in U.S. dollar terms. In addition, the company said it also expected its sales for the second quarter would rise 3.4 percent to 5.3 percent from the first quarter.

In addition, TSMC has announced that it will double output capacity to an equivalent of over 20 million 200mm wafers in five years. It said that was to meet strong demands likely to be driven by three emerging directions guiding hi-tech industry developments. Those are human-machine interface, digital-media technologies and a quickly diversified environment.

Other major semiconductor firms in Taiwan include UMC (United Microelectronics Corporation) and Mediatek, which is a fabless semiconductor company.

With their focus on marketing, design, masking, production, testing, and packaging, Taiwan's semiconductor manufacturing firms have had a huge effect on the momentum of vertical disintegration in the global industry. What more, Taiwan exerts a strong influence over the Chinese semiconductor market. Therefore, global upstream materials firms all maintain an active presence in Taiwan, from where they can service the entire Asia Pacific market. TSMC
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Whoa, what do you know, my brother in-law works for TSMC in the Boston office. He goes to Taiwan like once or twice a year and told me about the size of their manufacturing building is unbelievable. He's an electrical engineer but works in sales with high end client customer services. He doesn't like the corporate atmosphere there, but the pay check is pretty good ($200,000 per year before taxes).
 
CottageLV

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TSMC is a contractor like Foxxcon, just more high tech. But it still relies on stepper manufacturers like ASML, Canon, Nikon and Ultratech Inc. Right now, these four are the biggest in the world (More like big three, since Ultratech is pretty small compared to the other three). I'm not sure about others out there. But I'm sure they're very small and are almost certainly reliant on heavy government subsidies, if not completely crown owned. Those machines cost between 30 - 50 million USD each. Manufacturers like the big four spend about 500 million a year on R&D. Not many companies can get into the business. Plus those machines retire very quickly, usually no more than 5 years of usage.It's like trying to hop onto a treadmill that's already rolling at top speed, it's hard to do the timing properly. There's a very small window and you could get killed very easily.

There are so many limiting factors out there. The number one thing is technological background, you have to have a huge R&D team, consisting of hundreds of PHD's to backup the research. Then you need lots and lots of money to kick start the operation, plus another few billion to sustain the operation. Then you need a hell of a sales team to pushout your product, since it is still unknown and without established credibility.

This is very similar to large aircraft industry, unless you started very early, it is now almost impossible to become a player, unless you have big backup. The Chinese large aircraft program is a good example. China is the only one that make big jumbo jets out of noting, because it has the richest government in the world and the biggest market in the world behind its back.

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Most of you probably don't know what a stepper is. I'll explain it in a simple manner. It is almost like a CD burner. A silicon wafer is covered in coatings similar to those coatings on a blank CD. The stepper, aka photo-lithographic machines, through highpowered lights, it burns the nanometer scale pattern and structure of the CPU onto the coating. Then the wafer is submerged in a super corrosive chemical bath, corroding away the part not covered by the protective coating, which was removed by the stepper. Voila, there you have a state of the art CPU.
 
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I understood that a stepper puts the same image projection multiple times on a thin circular disk of silicon with a diameter of 200 mm or 300 mm, stepping from one area to be treated to another. Does some one know for sure?
 
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SOLID FUEL TECHNOLOGY

Very little discussion about this technology so far, it is the heart of missile technology, the more advanced the technology, the better the missile. Missile range (same dimension) will be greater as the technology gets better, and it will be safer and longer shelf life.

The USA still hold the most advanced solid fuel technology for missiles and rockets. How about China, the UK, France, Russia and perhaps Japan.

I read somewhere that China has already surpassed Russia in fuel technology, I have tried to find it, but no luck so far
 
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China's first Antarctic survey telescope was successfully installed at the Kunlun Antarctic Station during the 28th Antarctic Scientific Expedition.

The telescope, remotely controlled via satellite, can scan millions of stars in the Milky Way in an automatic and continuous manner. It can also search extra-solar planets.

Shang Chaohui, vice director of Chinese Center for Antarctic Astronomy (CCAA), said that China planned to install three Antarctic survey telescopes at the Kunlun Station. The first telescope was designed and built by Nanjing Institute of Astronomical Optics & Technology. And the transport control and data system were established by the National Astronomical Observatories of Chinese Academy of Sciences.

As the largest optical telescope in Antarctic, its primary mirror is 68 centimeters in diametrical length with a 50-centimeter aperture reflector. It has all the features of the modern telescope such as pointing, tracking and focusing.

The first Antarctic survey telescope is equipped with world's largest charge-coupled device (CCD), which converts light into electronic signals to make a digital image. The CCD has a capacity of 100 megapixels. A single exposure can cover 4.3 square degrees of sky areas, which is equivalent to the size of 18 moons.

To make a real-time data processing and analysis, the telescope is also equipped with advanced computer system, which enables it to detect transient objects, supernova and other objects with gamma-ray bursts.
 
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CottageLV said:
I'm very surprised that China is actually able to make it. SMEE, Shanghai Micro-Ecletronic Equipment LTD, is actually able to make them. Although only at 90nm, a decade behind western counterpart, it is still impressive.
As a Chinese, I'm happy knowing it.
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There is also Shanghai based
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. Schumacher posted a news item a few pages back. They are shipping 32-28 nm equipment, quite close to state-of-the-art, which I think is 22nm. They have shipped equipment to Taiwan and South Korea as well.
 
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. Schumacher posted a news item a few pages back. They are shipping 32-28 nm equipment, quite close to state-of-the-art, which I think is 22nm. They have shipped equipment to Taiwan and South Korea as well.
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They are two completely different steps in the process of manufacturing semiconductors. AMEC makes machines for etching, the step that comes after photo-lithography. It is equally important, but not as hard as to develop compared to steppers.
 
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