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Nobonita Barua

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When you add up the Western alliance of US + EU + India + Canada + UK + Israel then over 50% of AI researchers still come from the West. This is why alliances are important and China needs to improve its foreign relations, as well as up its overall game.
Nice. I love how you turn & twist everything .

Did india say they are in Western alliance? Last time i checked, they are screaming "atma nirbhar bharat" :rolleyes::rolleyes:
All of in US, UK, EU ,canada, overwhelming number of AI researcher ( or any other researcher of other fields for that fact) is of asian background .
 

j17wang

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When you add up the Western alliance of US + EU + India + Canada + UK + Israel then over 50% of AI researchers still come from the West. This is why alliances are important and China needs to improve its foreign relations, as well as up its overall game.

Why are we adding up EU + Israel? Also, I didnt realize India was already part of the western alliance. As per usual [citation needed]...
 

gadgetcool5

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Why are we adding up EU + Israel? Also, I didnt realize India was already part of the western alliance. As per usual [citation needed]...

They are a lot closer to the West than China.

An Indian is about to become US vice president, possibly first female President of the US.
India has joined the Quad.
The US is helping India in the Himalayas.
US national security strategy wants to accelerate the rise of India.

Meanwhile China is hated in India thanks to its refusal to settle the border issue.

Israel is an obvious US ally. It receives military support of $3 billion a year, and the AIPAC lobby is highly influential in Washington. Jewish people are at high levels all over US society.

EU is moving closer to the US, when Merkel is gone and is replaced there's the risk Germany will become more anti-China. Views of China in Europe has plummeted thanks to Xi Jinping's "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy which is so praised by Chinese nationalists in their Weibo echo chambers.

Face it, China is approaching isolation. China is at a similar situation as France in 1875. It needs to break out and build better relations with advanced countries.
 

Nobonita Barua

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They are a lot closer to the West than China.

An Indian is about to become US vice president, possibly first female President of the US.
India has joined the Quad.
The US is helping India in the Himalayas.
US national security strategy wants to accelerate the rise of India.

Meanwhile China is hated in India thanks to its refusal to settle the border issue.

Israel is an obvious US ally. It receives military support of $3 billion a year, and the AIPAC lobby is highly influential in Washington. Jewish people are at high levels all over US society.

EU is moving closer to the US, when Merkel is gone and is replaced there's the risk Germany will become more anti-China. Views of China in Europe has plummeted thanks to Xi Jinping's "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy which is so praised by Chinese nationalists in their Weibo echo chambers.

Face it, China is approaching isolation. China is at a similar situation as France in 1875. It needs to break out and build better relations with advanced countries.
No one asked for your reasoning based on who hates what. The question was simple & straight forward, did India join west alliance? What indians hate amount to how lil rats hate me for exterminating them. I couldn't give a single f--k.
Israel is already signing Chinese anthem, saying welcome hanging Chinese flag, receiving billions of Chinese investments.
Its interesting in regards to israel you specifically mentioned military alliance, because you knew Israel has significant economic interest with China. But in regards to india, you simply papered over saying "they love west, hate china", Lol.
What do "independent" India think about your western alliance tag? You didn't answer that
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AssassinsMace

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They are a lot closer to the West than China.

An Indian is about to become US vice president, possibly first female President of the US.
India has joined the Quad.
The US is helping India in the Himalayas.
US national security strategy wants to accelerate the rise of India.

Meanwhile China is hated in India thanks to its refusal to settle the border issue.

Israel is an obvious US ally. It receives military support of $3 billion a year, and the AIPAC lobby is highly influential in Washington. Jewish people are at high levels all over US society.

EU is moving closer to the US, when Merkel is gone and is replaced there's the risk Germany will become more anti-China. Views of China in Europe has plummeted thanks to Xi Jinping's "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy which is so praised by Chinese nationalists in their Weibo echo chambers.

Face it, China is approaching isolation. China is at a similar situation as France in 1875. It needs to break out and build better relations with advanced countries.

And China is the second most powerful country in the world and has number one, the US, worried over its position without what you think is important...
 

manqiangrexue

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When you add up the Western alliance of US + EU + India + Canada + UK + Israel then over 50% of AI researchers still come from the West.
It doesn't add like that. China has more STEM students than the entire developed world. India is the only country on that list that can challenge China by numbers but India, even with those numbers, is unable to turn out results. It turns out that Chinese researchers and STEM majors are the backbone of every modern scientific society and these countries only thrive by the works of the Chinese scientists who work for them. That is why China, with the most Chinese scientists in the world, grows its tech faster than anyone else.
This is why alliances are important and China needs to improve its foreign relations, as well as up its overall game.
Regurgitated broken record crap again. Show how to get better relations by getting better relations with me. If you can't demonstrate your own principle, then you should shut up.
They are a lot closer to the West than China.

An Indian is about to become US vice president, possibly first female President of the US.
India has joined the Quad.
The US is helping India in the Himalayas.
US national security strategy wants to accelerate the rise of India.
If India could rise, it would have done so through the decades. India is rotten from within and no external factors can turn it into a country like China. Hedging India against China is the West grasping at straws, trying to use mud to build a skyscraper that can rival China's growing steel tower.
Meanwhile China is hated in India thanks to its refusal to settle the border issue.
If they beg, we may consider. Meanwhile, it's China's call because they started something that they cannot finish.
Israel is an obvious US ally. It receives military support of $3 billion a year, and the AIPAC lobby is highly influential in Washington. Jewish people are at high levels all over US society.
Israel is an opportunist. It makes deals with China, even smuggles US military engines to China. Israel has no alliance except to itself; when the US is relegated by China, the first congratulatory call just might come from Israel.
EU is moving closer to the US,
Which is why the EU just signed the investment deal with China that left Americans howling at their "betrayal" right? Just a few weeks before Biden comes into office no less.
when Merkel is gone and is replaced there's the risk Germany will become more anti-China.
When leaders are replaced, the new government may sway either way. Doesn't mean you can fill that void of uncertainty with whatever you desire to see and hope to cause alarm as if it's true.
Views of China in Europe has plummeted thanks to Xi Jinping's "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy which is so praised by Chinese nationalists in their Weibo echo chambers.
Well, you know, China is for Chinese people. If the Premier of China is making Chinese people happy, that's what's important. If the Chinese premier is making Chinese people feel ashamed in order to please Europeans and Westerners, well, you might like that but us actual Chinese people, his people, will want him deposed.
Face it, China is approaching isolation. China is at a similar situation as France in 1875.
Face it, you don't know history and you don't know current events. China was never in a more powerful and dominant role than it is in today. It was never as crucial to the world than it is today and has never had as many contracts and partnerships.
It needs to break out and build better relations with advanced countries.
The weak-minded like yourself who go out seeking friends will never find them. The strong will find many friends because the world is drawn to his strength and want to be on his side.
 

j17wang

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Registered Member
They are a lot closer to the West than China.

An Indian is about to become US vice president, possibly first female President of the US.
India has joined the Quad. [citation needed]
The US is helping India in the Himalayas.
US national security strategy wants to accelerate the rise of India.

Meanwhile China is hated in India thanks to its refusal to settle the border issue.

Israel is an obvious US ally. It receives military support of $3 billion a year, and the AIPAC lobby is highly influential in Washington. Jewish people are at high levels all over US society.

EU is moving closer to the US, when Merkel is gone and is replaced there's the risk Germany will become more anti-China. Views of China in Europe has plummeted thanks to Xi Jinping's "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy which is so praised by Chinese nationalists in their Weibo echo chambers.

Face it, China is approaching isolation. China is at a similar situation as France in 1875. It needs to break out and build better relations with advanced countries.
[citation needed]
 

taxiya

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There’s an added benefit to going with permanent magnet tracks and placing the superconductor on the cars. As superconducting technology improves you can iterate on the cars much easier than you can rebuild the whole track network. This design approach is better at avoiding lock-in into obsolete technology.

But isn't using Permanent magnet on the tracks more susceptible to interfere with the surroundings?

I think using EM tracks was safer. (The engineers know better but I was thinking about the viability for expansion).

Permanent magnet on the tracks may deteriorate due to the heat, but EM track consumes energy. I don't know any natural interference besides temperature to permanent magnet. I think this is up to the engineers to figure out which is better based on the technology available.
 

taxiya

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I stand corrected. This prototype is indeed a joint effort with CRRC but still it’s led by SW Jiaotong, whereas the more conservative design is CRRC’s own project.
One more thing to add, the conservative design is based on the German design Transrapid which was adopted in Shanghai Maglev. It is a improved version by increasing top speed from 400km/s to above 600km/s. It is a mature design only need engineering refinement, meaning no research institute needed. The new design is a homegrown design without much inheritance, it is also a world unique design. So it is only nature that the project is led by a research entity rather than a company.

The role of CRRC with the SW Jiaotong is not a clear cut relationship, mine vs. their. The Jiaotong universities are the research arms of CRRC due to their historical link. Early R&D is in these universities and moved to CRRC in later engineering design. So I'd say both are CRRC projects but in different stages. SW Jiaotong would not venture for something without CRRC's active involvement and investment.

What is happening is that, the state has a long term plan for post-HSR (traditional) in 20 years (just say). Maglev is a front running option. There is a mature tech (conventional), but there is an even better one. There is no hurry to begin building Maglev right now. So the state want to investigate further (within the 5 year plan and 10 year midterm plan). The university got budget to to early research, CRRC got budget to build and test. It is not really CRRC or the university's own choice and ownership of the whole project.
 
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